(02-05-2020, 01:34 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Been there, done that, realized I utterly wasted my time and I'm never getting it back. Even if you learn stuff and put yourself forward to help with the workload you either get ignored or disappointed, and it's not worth it.
Well then I guess you've failed. Being ignored at first and then being disappointed was the least of troubles I had to deal with. Not that it should be normal experience, but then so are many other things not even related to individual personalities that were around. Some people were annoying to deal with, sure, but it is technical issues that often were much severe blocks.
I think I could easily have ended up being high up in the Staff if I acted slimier and backstabbed my friends. People aren't praised, rewarded or treated based on their own merits, skillset, and motivation, but instead whether or not they have the right connections or how far they're willing to drop into the pit to get what they want. I suppose you could say I failed; I didn't game the system and tried doing things honestly, and it achieved nothing.
I think I did without the acts you've mentioned, nor was there a pit to lunge myself into. Unless you'd like to accuse me of something? Which friends were you asked to backstab? Because I'm thinking you've made up expectations there and with all your posting activity and discussion engagement perhaps thought it would have given weight to your voice but it just did not and there wasn't much value in loudness.
I was thinking of putting in brackets "not trying to accuse anyone of anything" but decided against it since I thought it would be obvious and you would ascertain for yourself that you were an exception. There have always been individuals or groups of individuals, that for any number of vague reasons have not been well-liked by the people in charge. If you make the 'mistake' of befriending them, you can bet it will put you at odds with others (plenty of cases for this, Disco is very tribalistic). Similarly, you have cases where people do a 180 and backstab these people, later finding themselves more influence in the mod (ie Spazzy/TS crew drama, and he later became an admin).