2020 Mining Overhaul, Phase 1: Price and Sellpoint Adjustments

[TheShooter36]

I want it to be clear that this system was made to streamline MINING which badly needed it because of how it superseded absolutely everything else. Mining is an actual job done by miners which is NOT every faction. It really isn't that hard to understand and integrate within RP. So many factions (look up the definition of faction, it certainly doesn't mean nation state) needed inRP to rely on others to provide them with resources and raw materials, which mining does. Production and trade of finished goods is a whole different arrangement to shipping ore in bulk and many factions who had no inRP business doing it, did. It resulted in everyone and their mothers demanding sell points of their own. Well, flash news ; not everyone is interested in buying your several tonnes of raw materials they have no use for. How novel. So get used to this system, which is both entirely more rational and also much better balanced.

For what it's worth, this is only the beginning of work on economy, we're mostly dealing with new terrain here. As you've noticed, Disco economy has been mostly stagnant for a decade and it's not going to be fixed by half-measures, or overnight. Trading will get looked after eventually as well. In the meantime, the team has accomplished a lot of hard, exacting work while being as fair as possible and with specific goals in mind that were not "let's try to please everyone at once, coherence and balance be damned". I accept the ruffling of feathers, I very much welcome all the feedback you have to share with the team, but ad hominem attacks, insults, "oh woe is me" and assorted unproductive babbling are not productive and very disrespectful to the many efforts of everyone who was involved in these changes. Please consider what that message you're typing is going to add to the discussion and how much we can use it to make this better. If it's just bile, please refrain or take it to Flood. The old system isn't coming back. Move on. I'm fairly angered at having to issue such evident reminders to act with civility and patience (I almost said kindness, but that seems to be a primer these days) with a volunteer staff that's trying to change things at last.

To all of you, who've been providing intelligible remarks, comments, concerns, feedback and otherwise are testing out this new system - thanks. Keep it coming, we can't make this work without you.

Cheers.

I am sure consolidating mineable sellpoints at few select places and pretending many non-house factions not needing any of those materials is a good way /s.

No, that is not how you do it and if trading will be "balanced" in a similar manner, then we can all say that some of the factions might as well not stay at "pretending to not exist" actually cease to exist for achieving your goal of "moar player interactions" "in condensed environments". If you can not grasp the simple concept of FACTIONS needing raw materials, thus needing MINERS while not being able to mine themselves and then just making it concentrated on houses because "they are houses" and "muh balans" while apparently there are also contradicting decisions in the data is just incompetence and hypocrisy at a high level, if no incompetence is involved, then there is an absolute bias towards many, many factions.

Not every faction needs to be able to mine, however buying the materials, at least one form of material, is needed. And there are factions that can not mine, while not having their own mining sellpoint either, I do not see how would they even sustain their resources unless they are intended to be literally slaves of a nearby house now, while houses are pretty much self sufficient.

Apparently none of the rheinland unlawfuls (they cant even mine things aside of RHA), Coalition (cant mine, no sell point), CR (cant mine, no sell point), Order, IMG, Outcasts and Corsairs, Core, Rogues (cant mine, no sellpoints), LH (cant mine, no sellpoint), FA (cant mine, no sellpoint), Gaians (cant mine, no sellpoint, come on give those guys at least something after you put them under a million buses for creating enclave), BD (cant mine and no sellpoint) does not need any raw materials of any kind while Enclave, Xenos, GC and Hogosha needs all sorts of materials.

I can bluntly and honestly say, this mining overhaul is absolutely bollocks, the intention behind it, and the attitude of "love it or leave it" or "just play a different faction" is even more bollocks, and this is turning Discovery Freelancer into Discovery Houselancer. If all those non-house factions are not intended to be enjoyed and played, then why even waste devpower and assets to keep them afloat?

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