Who is still around from Discovery's golden age?

[Hidamari]

last I will say because this thread has been accidentally hijacked by me.

Making stupidly OP things is how you kill the game.

considering I played through the Kraken Sabre meta, compared to how the game is now that was absolutely nothing.

also overpowered fighters dont invalidate as much of the game space as overpowered bombers do. because they simply do not have the solo pressure to punch above their weight class.

Solo krakens did. All you had to do was box, and do insane amounts of DPS. That was why it was so busted. Because of the speed and damage. We don't need to go back to the phantom times of insane damage weapons.

Also, for the record, bombers can be killed if they're alone since they need to get in 500m to fire but in a pack, obviously you're going to have a bad time. EMP Flaks are just essential for countering them.

They didnt do insane amounts of DPS they did about 10-20% more than other fighter guns, which to other fighters is obnoxious but absolutely everything else it was not a lot.

It would take you 10 minutes+ to kill a properly armoured transport with a solo kraken sabre, that was also before turret steer so they aren't going to be doing anything to gunboats and up.

In that time there was the possibility of several things happening, they can kill you, you can call for help and actually have enough time for help to arrive and meaningfully assist, you could run to the nearest base provided it wasn't TOO far away, a random other trader that came out of the lane could provide you bots and bats so that you DO survive. You could actually be saved from that situation.

So like I said they cant really do much, overpowered bombers make a mockery of the entire game design, they invalidate the grind you do in transports and miners for better armour & bigger ships (which is 90% of the reason anyone ever did those activities besides not feeling confident in pvp) by rinsing through you and making you wonder why you bothered.

The incongruity of something so small being so powerful to things 20 to 100 times its size is like why would you bother grinding for those things?

Also im not even sure why you brought up the sabre kraken meta as like i said you would be going back to 85 with the knowledge you have now, Hindsight is extremely powerful. You wouldnt even have to deal with it since everybody already knows about it and krakens would just get nerfed slightly.

the problem you have now is instead of things being brought down to the level they need to be, absolutely everything just gets buffed ad infinitum. so all the guns get 20% buff, so all the fighters need a 20% HP buff to compensate, so gunboats need a buff to their HP and weapons because fighters are too oppressive. Now cruisers are being out performed by gunboats so now they need a buff, now bombers need a major buff because fighters and gunboats are too strong, now transports need...

on and on and on and on and on until you reach where we are today.

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