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Offline Sombs
11-04-2023, 01:35 PM,
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(11-04-2023, 09:56 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: You cannot possibly know how strong desire for freedom is if you never have been opressed.
Opressed people will give up everthing even for short time of freedom ,if you lack examples in real world, watch "Spartacus" with Kirk Douglas,that shuld be enough ,for example, at movie end, former slaves rather all died then return to life in slavery.

Kinda implies that living in slavery on Malta is worse than living in corporate slavery in Liberty. That is the big crux. Apart from Cardamine being an incredibly dangerous plant itself and difficult to harvest by manual labor, the Outcasts turned Malta into a paradies for themselves - especially thanks to Cardamine.

I always saw this as a big controversial point where the slavery on Malta was not the worst case at all for a Sirian. Sure, slavery on paper, with comparison drawn to the real world, is bad. But that's not directly applicable to the situation in Discovery. Malta is deep into criminal stuff, not just the cardamine trade. Its cartels and dons are all about illegal methods - nobody stops them, because nobody really can. Malta itself is a fortress. Even in vanilla, it was mentioned that any attempt of an invasion would be repelled by the planetary defense grid.

The very crux is that Liberty is a hellhole. No matter whether it is a Slaves commodity sold on Pittsburgh or a Criminals commodity sold in Texas - the only people thriving in Liberty are the upper class, on Manhattan, on Denver and on Los Angeles. Those are the people that can afford security from LPI and the conveniences of Cryer and Synth Foods. The bottom feeders on the other hand are the ones suffering from crime in Liberty, from neglection of security, from transports getting shot down left and right (especially on the lane between Fort Bush and Pittsburgh, at least since vanilla).

There are so many facettes about it, it's really something. Living on Malta is described as living on paradies, and I would imagine that the effects of Cardamine would affect slaves on Malta positively, too. Meanwhile, however you look at Liberty, living there is horrible unless you have a gun or money - or both. It's a horrifying juxtaposition, and it was always one I really enjoyed about Freelancer, because the world is full of ambiguity, to the point where something as slavery is not as black and living in freedom - in Liberty - is not as white as one would color it. I am afraid, though, that Discovery itself is full of people who only see black and white, and apply real life horrors to Discovery without a second thought.




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Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 08:39 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Chenzo- - 11-03-2023, 08:47 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by LunaticOnTheGrass - 11-03-2023, 08:56 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Chenzo- - 11-03-2023, 09:25 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 09:36 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 09:40 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by The_Godslayer - 11-03-2023, 09:47 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 09:58 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Major. - 11-03-2023, 09:49 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 10:01 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Major. - 11-03-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Avalanche - 11-04-2023, 01:21 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by TheSauron - 11-03-2023, 10:03 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by |nfrared - 11-03-2023, 10:07 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Demonic - 11-03-2023, 10:09 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:12 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:22 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-03-2023, 10:41 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:43 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by sasapinjic - 11-04-2023, 09:56 AM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-04-2023, 01:18 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Haste - 11-03-2023, 10:40 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:42 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 10:51 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Vulkhard Muller - 11-03-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 10:50 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 11:04 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by TheSauron - 11-03-2023, 10:52 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:03 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-03-2023, 11:08 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:11 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-03-2023, 11:13 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Sombs - 11-04-2023, 01:35 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by jammi - 11-04-2023, 02:07 PM
RE: Fix Cardamine - by Erremnart - 11-04-2023, 01:54 PM

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