' Wrote:I highly doubt I misunderstood your argument. I'm referring to your viewpoint as self-righteous, not your person. I have no problem with you, just the point you're trying to make.
Quote:=Hyung
There IS a place for all levels of Roleplay on this server.
Quite simply, is incorrect, in my opinion. There is not.
There is a place for all levels of legitimate roleplay.
Quote:You use the term "OORP" very loosely. I choose to define "OORP" as something that directly contravenes established lore. Should such a case actually arise, it must be dealt with in that the conflict must be resolved in order to retain continuity. I doubt you'll disagree with me in that regard. I also agree that roleplay that doesn't create a paradoxical situation per se shouldn't be called OORP, as doing so is at odds with how I define the term.
However, where we seem to diverge in opinion is that all roleplay is equally valid. It is not. The average bounty hunter gunboat I encounter as Jonas or Robert elicits, at most, an "open fire!!" before letting rip. I have no problem with this from a PvP point of view - I can easily dodge most incoming capital fire. It's their pathetic excuses for player killing that irritate me and that need to be criticized and changed Putative efforts at roleplay should be encouraged, yes, but by no means left as such. Certain roleplay is better than others, that's simple fact. While inexperienced roleplayers shouldn't be mocked, neither should their efforts simply be accepted as such. Such efforts should be improved upon, but not just permitted to abide as such. It's our duty to the server to stop capwhores from remaining capwhores and to try to improve the status quo as a whole.
I think we are saying the same things in a different way.
You are focused on one issue here. I am not calling all roleplay as valid. I specifically said that:
if it doesnt break server rules
if it adheres to an Freelancer in-universe common sense
..then it can be called legitimate roleplay. You cannot call someones setup, or roleplay as 'out-of-role-play'. Simply for the fact that you might not have the whole story. What I am targeting in this thread is the instant "YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU ARE BEING OORP," tendency that is VERY prevalent ingame and here on these forums. That is accusatory and does not help the person to whom you are saying it. It is destructive to relationships and the good of this community and can be seen as personally attacking a player, rather than
Like I said in my first post, It is NOT your duty to stop other people from having a Capital ship, simply because of a perceived 'Cap-whore" issue. That is the admins duty, if it is found that they are being PVP abusive or OORP in actuality. Too many people here on these forums are trying to do the admins job.
What you ARE is a Discovery community member and as such have the same value as other members.
What you cannot do as a member is say to another person - without finding out the whole story - "YOU ARE BEING OORP." I have to use the 'OORP' term very loosely, because I must. Legitimate roleplay is too broad for one person, or even a group of persons to define. In a faction that factions roleplay is determined by the faction leaders, and if allowed, its members. Discovery Roleplay server itself is too large for any one person to define what is OORP and what is not. People may very well WANT to roleplay a rogue Liberty Navy, or an independent Corsair. But it should be done in legitimate roleplay way, not 'I stoled it!'
Now I'm tired of repeating the same points over and over, in different ways,
so I'm going to go in game and PVP someone.
n00bl3t Wrote:I'm glad someone on this forum, who has very little posts, has the guts to say things as he sees it and is not intimidated by elitist post haulers or the consequences of not kissing faction butt.
I'm not sure if that was directed at me, but I rep-resent that implication:D
Sovereign Wrote:Seek fun and you shall find it. Seek stuff to Q_Q about and you'll find that, too. I choose to have fun.
