' Wrote:Simply agreed... And yeah Corsairs/Order have the biggest problem with them... cause they love to make groups of big ships and kill everything that undocks from Crete/Toledo... Its great feeling when you undock and even before you see scanners, you are already dead, reading " Lol pwned rofl ". And since they have no bases there, they camp at Freeports...that REALLY makes us Zoners dying from happyness (-STRONG irony detected-). They even shoot Zoners NPCs and player as well when he is so arrogant to say them something about no-fire-zone.
I feel sorry for BHGs that are actually fine and rp... but the faction have so much BAD players that theese "good people" are just shadows somewhere behind... Everyone knows they exist, but noone actually seen them.
Well I was going to say this....
Quote:I could say that about a lot of factions on the server, corsairs included.
Let's stick with dealing with how players interact with other players before we start listing all the other problems: anyone with a zoner IFF has shot up BH npc's or a BH depot. Frankly I think basing your interaction with someone on "captured pilots" is pretty unimaginative. Doesn't mean I haven't done it, but it's not the be all and end all.
This is a problem that crops up again and again - because the BHG capships are cheap, powerful and the id permits anyone choosing it to interpret it freely as a license to kill EVERY criminal in all Sirius.
And I have to read the same generalisations about BHG players every time this problem is here.
Bear in mind though, that the lawful police factions are the most underrepresented groups on the server and the military factions can be pretty inactive compared to all the pirates out there. There is a vacuum there and it's being filled.
Order players complain about BH killing them. This is hard to grasp. Guild Core are at war with the Order. Maybe the fact the Order might actually be losing a war never really seems to have dawned on people. Most of the frustration is oorp complaints about BHers being in the wrong system or being capwhores.
Solution: organise yourselves and get a few bombers. If I thought we could have a regular event then I'd say go for it, but where is the Order leadership and why aren't they the ones objecting to BHG incursions with the same vigour with which they asserted control over their capital ships against other Order players in the past?
Corsairs complain about the BH raids on Gamma. This complaint is understandable; dock killing and attacking a planet is pretty, as Megiddo put it, cheesy. But deal with the individuals on an individual basis, just as we dealt with New London orbit camping corsair idiots on an individual basis without lambasting every corsair player out there.
Bear in mind: any BHG player attempting to get to the Omicrons has to go through Gamma. Other player factions have made this situation what it is as well. Add all that to the ID and the ship cost and you have headaches for Corsairs.
What are the solutions? Fix the price, the system map and parts of the ID. More importantly fill the vacuum that allows these idiots to exist.
Factions are not going to solve this one for now, nor should they have to. Anyway, generally speaking, with the BHG id, I don't believe the BHG factions are reputed well enough to be able to dictate to indy players how a BHG should be played.
And I will be sending every fighter we have to Order space to pwnzor you order newbs lulz. Prepare to DIE!