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Population of Sirius
Offline Unseelie
01-04-2009, 04:51 PM,
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Kingvalliant, I've done a simillar study, and found the numbers to be very small. The link to that model is in my signature. But I've also stated over and over that I don't think a nation's current growth will have much to do with the house's growth in freelancer, if at all. Moreover, to adress the argument that advanced nations don't like to have children, I'll propose the idea that advanced nations are full, and don't have room, while developing nations, do have room. But that, in itself, is flawed, because of nations like the siamiese regions. Still, I think I can show that, for the most part, it is likely that the more densely populated regions have less growth than the less densly populated regions, through use of these:Population Density:
[Image: 300px-Countries_by_population_density.svg.png],
and Population Growth Rate:
[Image: 400px-Population_growth_rate_world.PNG]

25 billion per planet is, in my oppinion, closer to correct that Igiss's 2.3 billion in all of Sirius...But 12 million per house capital, and less on the outlying worlds, is more reasonable.


Igiss, before I run your numbers in earnest, I've a few more questions: Have the populations of the houses been growing on the same average rate throughout their lifespans, or was there a colonial boom at 0 point? IF so, what sort of colonial boom? How long did it last? On Gallia: How many did they bring(consensus on the 5 original sleeper ships is 50k apiece), and when did they arrive?(I suspect that they'll have an unfairly better growth rate.)

Beyond that, I'm going to go ahead and say that I cannot understand why the population would be so low (nor why it isn't growing right now if it is so low, which would have made manhattan grow, one expects) unless you're citing extreme agricultural difficulties, so much so that across the 3 arable worlds of Liberty, they can only grow enough food, even with the 'advanced robotics' that you introduced into this discussion, enough food for less than 800 million people? A tenth of the current human population? That is to say, these three worlds, as far as their agriculture is concerned, are each only worth 3% of earth? Not even mentioning Synth foods.

Quote:Still, I'll insist that increasing those figures more than 30-35% doesn't make much sense.
Why not? I believe the past 9 pages are discussions and citations as to why it does make sense, and I don't at all see where my logic has failed. Please point that out, and I'll begin work under a new set of reasonable assumptions, or endeavor to satisfactorilarily justify my own.

Also, with your permission, I'm going to ask Kuriane if I can have, and share with the community, the populations of each base and faction throughout the sector, and compare that to the use and production of capitalships.

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Messages In This Thread
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-26-2008, 05:50 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 11-26-2008, 05:55 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-26-2008, 06:08 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 11-26-2008, 06:23 AM
Population of Sirius - by ProwlerPC - 11-26-2008, 06:28 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 11-26-2008, 06:29 AM
Population of Sirius - by Elvin - 11-26-2008, 11:30 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-26-2008, 02:35 PM
Population of Sirius - by Xing - 11-26-2008, 02:54 PM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-26-2008, 03:03 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-26-2008, 03:44 PM
Population of Sirius - by Dusty Lens - 11-26-2008, 04:44 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-26-2008, 05:27 PM
Population of Sirius - by jammi - 11-26-2008, 07:00 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-26-2008, 07:09 PM
Population of Sirius - by Monk - 11-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Population of Sirius - by Elvin - 11-26-2008, 07:45 PM
Population of Sirius - by farmerman - 11-26-2008, 08:13 PM
Population of Sirius - by Rashnok - 11-27-2008, 05:41 AM
Population of Sirius - by tansytansey - 11-28-2008, 01:22 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-28-2008, 01:27 AM
Population of Sirius - by bluntpencil2001 - 11-28-2008, 01:27 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-28-2008, 01:30 AM
Population of Sirius - by Linkus - 11-28-2008, 02:06 AM
Population of Sirius - by tansytansey - 11-28-2008, 02:07 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-28-2008, 02:12 AM
Population of Sirius - by Elvin - 11-28-2008, 02:35 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-28-2008, 08:13 PM
Population of Sirius - by Zygoeths - 11-29-2008, 12:31 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 11-29-2008, 12:35 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-29-2008, 12:47 AM
Population of Sirius - by Zygoeths - 11-29-2008, 01:47 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 11-29-2008, 01:49 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 12:03 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 12-09-2008, 12:08 AM
Population of Sirius - by sovereign - 12-09-2008, 03:47 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 12-09-2008, 03:52 AM
Population of Sirius - by sovereign - 12-09-2008, 04:22 AM
Population of Sirius - by Cellulanus - 12-09-2008, 05:25 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 05:34 AM
Population of Sirius - by pchwang - 12-09-2008, 06:18 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 12-09-2008, 06:55 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 07:07 AM
Population of Sirius - by pchwang - 12-09-2008, 07:46 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 12-09-2008, 07:51 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 07:53 AM
Population of Sirius - by pchwang - 12-09-2008, 07:59 AM
Population of Sirius - by looqas - 12-09-2008, 08:41 AM
Population of Sirius - by FooFighter - 12-09-2008, 02:03 PM
Population of Sirius - by Saigo.Watanabe - 12-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 04:16 PM
Population of Sirius - by pchwang - 12-09-2008, 06:58 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-09-2008, 07:02 PM
Population of Sirius - by pchwang - 12-09-2008, 07:12 PM
Population of Sirius - by Linkus - 12-09-2008, 10:01 PM
Population of Sirius - by Kambei - 12-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Population of Sirius - by Primus Avatar - 12-10-2008, 11:40 AM
Population of Sirius - by guitarguy - 12-10-2008, 02:04 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 12-10-2008, 02:29 PM
Population of Sirius - by sovereign - 12-15-2008, 06:49 AM
Population of Sirius - by Drake - 12-15-2008, 07:21 AM
Population of Sirius - by Dusty Lens - 12-15-2008, 02:43 PM
Population of Sirius - by FooFighter - 12-15-2008, 08:55 PM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-03-2009, 03:09 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Population of Sirius - by sovereign - 01-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-03-2009, 09:48 PM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Population of Sirius - by Sand-Viper - 01-03-2009, 11:16 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-03-2009, 11:26 PM
Population of Sirius - by Sand-Viper - 01-03-2009, 11:46 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-03-2009, 11:56 PM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-04-2009, 01:20 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-04-2009, 01:40 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-04-2009, 04:18 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 01-04-2009, 04:21 AM
Population of Sirius - by Sand-Viper - 01-04-2009, 04:26 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 01-04-2009, 04:35 AM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-04-2009, 04:45 AM
Population of Sirius - by Mercenary Guild - 01-04-2009, 08:06 AM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Population of Sirius - by kingvaillant - 01-04-2009, 03:47 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-04-2009, 04:51 PM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-04-2009, 06:35 PM
Population of Sirius - by Saigo.Watanabe - 01-04-2009, 06:38 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-04-2009, 07:58 PM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Population of Sirius - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-05-2009, 01:38 AM
Population of Sirius - by AdamantineFist - 01-05-2009, 03:20 AM
Population of Sirius - by reavengitair - 01-05-2009, 04:17 AM
Population of Sirius - by Igiss - 01-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-05-2009, 05:15 PM
Population of Sirius - by FooFighter - 01-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Population of Sirius - by bluntpencil2001 - 01-05-2009, 06:47 PM
Population of Sirius - by Snapp - 01-06-2009, 12:10 AM
Population of Sirius - by jammi - 01-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Population of Sirius - by reavengitair - 01-14-2009, 10:34 AM
Population of Sirius - by pieguy259 - 01-20-2009, 07:21 AM
Population of Sirius - by hliey - 01-21-2009, 05:24 PM
Population of Sirius - by Unseelie - 01-21-2009, 05:38 PM
Population of Sirius - by reavengitair - 01-23-2009, 01:06 PM
Population of Sirius - by Jimothy - 02-03-2009, 11:32 PM

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