LESSON ABOUT SPORTSMANSHIP

[kingvaillant]

Okay, this is realling pissing me off.

Everytime We lawfuls enter a fight we always fight 3 v 6. Because more and more Pirates show up. None of us complain.

Yet when Pirates enter a fight starts out as 1 v 1 then 2 v 3 then 3 v 5 then 8 v 6 and a Gunboat. (Pirates having 8.) Yet when they're numbers dwindle. They start complaining.

To make this worse. HALF of the PIRATES also have Liberty Navy and LSF Characters! What the hell?! If you loose a fight and complain don't switch to your Lawful and yell at us! -Don't- Complain period.

Liberty = ganking <strike>paradise</strike> hell.

Although, main point is, do you really have to gank your enemy because they always gank you? two wrongs don't make a right. don't do like others, if you can "balance" a fight to make it fair and nice for both sides DO IT, Balance the fight, so people will show you their gratitude afterwards.

If you see a player playing really unfair, like a missile boat. Ask him to pull out of the fight (IN SYSTEM CHAT) to respect other players. If he doesn't pull out, at least your opponents will know that you've tried to help them.

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I think the real issue here is how you look at the game. Is this a RP game with an overlay of shoot-em-up action game? or is this a shoot-em-up action game with an RP overlay?

That is something that can be debated for a year and a half. Disco is a RP based server yes, but they are using a game that was designed by a company to be a first person shooter game in all reality. You have to respect both sides. I mean there are extremes on both sides. Personally I like the FPS, and not so much the RP. In RP people pull stuff out of their butts, like the guy who tried to throw a virus into my ships computer systems. My reaction was 'you've got to be joking me!' And although I respected the wishes of the server and RPed it so I didn't get the virus, he still died a horrible PvP death to say the least. Normally, I would have just laughed and opened up on him, but hey, when in rome...so I did some RPing first.

Anyways, not to get sidetracked. The basics is this, you can't please everyone. And in all honesty this is still a FPS game and unless you fly around with no guns on your ship, don't complain when someone owns you.

As for ganking, ganking is just some word some guys made to make sure they can cry foul when they die. It's a fight, and everyone and I mean everyone ganks. Unless we all went out and bought the exact same ships, the exact same guns, armor upgrades, scanners, toprs, missiles, and IDs, we are all gonna have different advantages and disadvantages. You don't hear me crying about losing when I take on a fighter in my bomber and get killed. I don't cry foul and tell the guy he ganked me cuz he came into the fight with an upper hand. Have you tried taking on a fast maneuverable fighter in a Havoc MK II? It's hell, specially when its 2 pirates in fighters vs me and my slow bomber.

If you look at any system in the game, no fight is fair, but you bite the bullet, learn from your death experience and come back strong with more of an edge. That's how you improve your fighting skills. I didn't win a single fight for the first 10 days i flew my Havoc Bomber, 2 days ago i had 6 kills total and were complimented on my abilities to do so by 2 separate people for killing them. In all 6 fights I died cuz after killing one or two of them I had to run as I had no NBs or SBs left. Did they let me get away? Nope. But that's the price I paid for going into a fight knowing I was outnumbered and out gunned. I also made a point, I sent a clear msg to them that if you come to liberty, there is at least one guy who doesn't care if the tax payers have to buy another ship, he is gonna make you bleed. Most pirates can't dock on New York, they either don't know about the badlands or they are hostile to it. When they have to use shield batteries and nanos, or missiles and torps to take me down, it's worth it to me, cuz they eventually have to leave to reload. That in my opinion is what my job came down to, making the pirates leave any which way I can. It's about an attitude, you come to liberty, you leave with a black eye. Eventually they will think twice about coming there alone and robbing traders blind. And if you think about it, this is what liberty lawfuls are trying to accomplish in both RP and PvP.

Or how about the other day when we were chasing a wounded gunboat who was clearly dead, and while chasing him for 15 minutes around liberty, he suddenly stops and I get killed by some other pirate who obviously came to his aid and shot me with a SNAC? That same guy was crying about dying in a later fight cuz he was ganked. Come on!

As for the ganking stuff again, how many times has one of you been going down a trade-lane and it gets interrupted, and you find yourself facing 1 fighter, 1 bomber, and 1 GB? WHo are a Xeno, an Outcast, and a LR to top it off. You don't even get a chance to type a word in before one of them says 'prepare to die LSF'. And these are the same people cussing up a storm on skype and crying about getting killed. They can't hide, it's easy to know who is who. But, it's the nature of the game. No point in crying about it. People who do, should make zoner characters and fly around smiling and waving at everyone.

an FPS with RP added to it, that is what I believe the game to be.

Now, I am a very active FPS player myself. Getting ganked in such game is part of it. However, you gotta admit one thing... when you get killed on and on and on and on without having a single chance to score, you kinda get fed up of the match and leave. You turn off the game and do something else, to evacuate frustrations a bit.

Same kind of thing in FL
If there wasn't a 4hours rules, people wouldn't mind much about ganking and would do like in any other FPS, respawn right after death and try to win again or find a new adversary in the same "server/area/match/environment".

But the current situation is that if you die, you can't come back for the next four hours, which is long and frustrating if you were killed unfairly. Hence why some sportsmanship is needed. Otherwise, it gets too irritating for everyone.

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and yes, some people are simply "natural whiners". Kind of persons that is a "bad looser" can we say. Kind of folks who would scream hacker or find any kind of excuses to justify their death. However, after getting killed multiple times in a row and facing limitations afterward you are surely far from happy

Hope you will all learn something from these logs.

Most of the stuff compromising some identities has been removed and some part censored

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