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[mjolnir]

Posting after loosing a fight because of something is generally not a good idea.
Most notably I would direct you to this: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...0652&st=100
thread page 11 and 12.. .something about sore loosers trying to limit others.

You are generally complaining that two of the fastest Order ships with 2 missiles each can barely defeat two nomad bombers who don't have any cd?

That kinda shows that missiles either are not that good... or the bombers are way too uber.
(we are talking about similar skill lever here, I'd personally say the Order pilots are better, but then it just makes the point stronger)

FYI I fought 3 (after a while 2) Hessians at once yesterday in my Phantom, didn't got hit by a single missile, they had 3 missiles together....

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Cannonball - Easier to hit with than any gun. Does a metric poo-load of damage. Fire and forget weaponary, can be spammed in group fights and you'll doubtless land enough shots for it to make a difference.

I find CBs about as easy to hit as Mini, and about as easy to hit as it always was in 1vs1, only problem is that CBs specifically hit a bit too much outside that now, due to the explosion range which will be corrected.

Sidewinders- Worse on the 'fire and forget' front. The tracking is insane. You can do an awful lot to avoid them, but if you have someone spamming them at your rear end in a fight there isn't much you can do than turn your CM's on and pray.

Yes they do hit ships that are running in one direction and ran out of CMs, same as firestalkers (which also ALWAYS did it - ask Skoko about his slipstream trip to gamma)... effectively negating the "running" tactic that can be used either for shieldrunning or for simply running away. I'd say people are just a bit use to the "I will dodge away from anything" tactic.

I just think a tracking or turn nerf would be ideal on missiles generally.

Tracking itself is exactly the same as always.

As things stand, having a pair of missiles in a group fight (remember dual CB nearly instas any fighter) is like having an "I win" button in a group fight if you're chasing someone.

Dual CB does 16626 damage... which actually doesn't instakill even half LFs... while mini + one gun salvo does insta-kill anything. Same with nomad torp + sn off course...


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I do have few ideas what can be changed about missiles in many ways, but then again, that would make me sore looser trying to limit others.


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@Saxophile

In the current situations I'd say this: missiles do make noobs better. But if 2 experienced pilots meet and each has either a missile or cd . The outcome in all fights I was in and have seen is still that the better pilot wins. If one experienced pilot meets noobs with missiles (and he has either cd or missile) he will also win easily.

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