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Offline Andrew_Bonesovich
05-19-2009, 10:14 AM,
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It sucks because I was not able to dodge 3 chims? Yes, because in other HFs, Greyhound and Gladiator, I was able to dodge even more VHFs on my tail.

There might be 2 people with Paladins, but its always the same two people, no one else is flying it, thats what I meant. And everyone in BAF who tried flying it says its horrible, its not only me.

And, Chimaera is able to dodge Templars which are not able to keep up with it, yes. And you are good at dodging too then.

By dying in that ship, in meant dying in situation that the person is able to handle in any other ship. Not just dying while being outnumbered/capspammed etc.

I find it funny that most people saying that its okay are kusarian players, and never tried flying Paladin, while most bretonian players say it sucks.:D

EDIT: I dont believe numbers very much, but there are some stats from Datastorm. Ive heard the extra stats (steering, mass, etc.) it shows are not very reliable, but from what I understand, higher number means "worse" (because BSses have huuuge numbers according to it)

Quote:Paladin

Gun/Turret Mounts: 6/0
Armor: 8600
Cargo Space: 50
Max Batteries/NanoBots: 56/56
Optimal Weapon Class: 7
Max. Weapon Class: 9
Additional Equipment: M, CM, CD/T

Mass: 150
Steering: 51500 51500 160000
Angular: 41000 41000 118000
Rotation: 7600 7600 7000
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2

Chimaera

Gun/Turret Mounts: 6/0
Armor: 11800
Cargo Space: 70
Max Batteries/NanoBots: 70/70
Optimal Weapon Class: 8
Max. Weapon Class: 10
Additional Equipment: M, CM, CD/T

Mass: 150
Steering: 48000 48000 58000
Angular: 41000 41000 48000
Rotation: 8400 8400 7600
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2

Greyhound

Gun/Turret Mounts: 4/0
Armor: 8200
Cargo Space: 71
Max Batteries/NanoBots: 63/63
Optimal Weapon Class: 9
Max. Weapon Class: 10
Additional Equipment: M, CM, CD/T

Mass: 150
Steering: 45000 45000 70000
Angular: 38000 38000 60000
Rotation: 5000 5000 9000
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2

Gladiator

Gun/Turret Mounts: 4/0
Armor: 9200
Cargo Space: 56
Max Batteries/NanoBots: 55/55
Optimal Weapon Class: 8
Max. Weapon Class: 10
Additional Equipment: M, CM, CD/T, CD

Mass: 150
Steering: 50500 50500 180000
Angular: 41000 41000 134000
Rotation: 8000 8000 8000
Nudge-Force: 30000
Strafe-Force/-Powerusage: 20000/2


EDIT no.2

Just tested Paladin against Greyhound, Gladiator, and Chimaera.

Paladin vs. Greyhound - 1:0 for Paladin, with some problems, but I made the Greyhound run

Paladin vs. Gladiator - 1:0 for Paladin, went quite easily, may be because pilot of the Gladiator was flying it the first time, might need testing again

Paladin vs. Chimaera - 1:0 for Chimaera. This is where it fails, HFs are supposed to counter VHFs, especially the Paladin was made to counter Chimaeras, which outturn Templars. Sadly it fails at its purpose, Chimaera is equally agile, while having more firepower, armor, and being HF sized.

Paladin was made as a response to superior Chimaera, thats what I was told. Instead, Chimaeras are superior not only to Templars, but also the new Paladin.

You may persuade me that its balanced against other HFs, and that it is like any other HF, but then there is something wrong with Chimaera. Either the Paladin is bad, and needs some kind of boost, or the Chimaera is too good.


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Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-22-2009, 03:12 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by tansytansey - 04-22-2009, 03:23 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Xing - 04-22-2009, 03:32 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by tansytansey - 04-22-2009, 03:39 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by AdamantineFist - 04-22-2009, 03:46 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Weedalot - 04-22-2009, 03:53 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Xing - 04-22-2009, 04:01 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Orin - 04-22-2009, 04:03 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Dusty Lens - 04-22-2009, 04:17 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by tansytansey - 04-22-2009, 04:32 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-22-2009, 06:29 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 04-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-22-2009, 07:35 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 04-22-2009, 07:55 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by pchwang - 04-22-2009, 09:20 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Taffic - 04-22-2009, 09:24 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-22-2009, 09:25 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by El Nino - 04-23-2009, 12:57 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Jamez - 04-23-2009, 01:08 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by MarvinCZ - 04-23-2009, 03:26 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Xing - 04-23-2009, 04:37 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by BaconSoda - 04-23-2009, 10:44 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by pipsqueak - 04-24-2009, 04:51 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by McNeo - 04-24-2009, 01:28 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 04-24-2009, 02:22 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-24-2009, 04:51 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 04-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Unseelie - 04-24-2009, 06:45 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 04-24-2009, 06:49 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 04-24-2009, 07:12 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 04-24-2009, 07:33 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Hawkwings - 04-24-2009, 08:37 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Xing - 04-24-2009, 08:58 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 04-24-2009, 11:07 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-18-2009, 10:02 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by McNeo - 05-18-2009, 10:34 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by McNeo - 05-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Hawkwings - 05-18-2009, 11:40 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 10:14 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by n00bl3t - 05-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 03:21 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Hawkwings - 05-19-2009, 04:29 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Hawkwings - 05-19-2009, 05:01 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 05:15 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Hawkwings - 05-19-2009, 06:37 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 07:12 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 07:56 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Derkylos - 05-19-2009, 08:11 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 08:17 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by RingoW - 05-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Derkylos - 05-19-2009, 08:56 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by gezza999 - 05-19-2009, 09:16 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Benjamin - 05-19-2009, 09:33 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by gezza999 - 05-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 09:48 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Jinx - 05-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 10:13 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by RingoW - 05-19-2009, 10:15 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by gezza999 - 05-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by RingoW - 05-19-2009, 10:29 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 10:45 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 10:50 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 11:09 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-19-2009, 11:40 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-19-2009, 11:47 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-20-2009, 09:50 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by n00bl3t - 05-20-2009, 09:58 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by MarvinCZ - 05-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by mjolnir - 05-21-2009, 09:32 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by Andrew_Bonesovich - 05-21-2009, 10:07 AM
Paladin Balance Discussion - by gezza999 - 05-21-2009, 11:53 AM

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