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"New faction creation process and representation" discussion thread.
Offline Korrd
05-26-2009, 06:21 PM,
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' Wrote:In some cases, perhaps. In many, absolutely not.
There are many occasions and examples where someone having monopoly over an NPC faction would be indeed detrimental to the state of the server.
Not all factions have a sensible leadership, and some people, frankly, are addicted to power just a bit.
Some people have a problem admitting they are wrong.
Having someone have monopoly over an NPC faction just because he was there first is totally and utterly wrong.

The RP and diplomacy of NPC factions who have more than one official faction should be governed by an equal council of their leaders.
There should *not* be a monopoly on NPC factions. Of course we can't have two RM's, LN's, or BAF's, but that's just exceptions to the rule.

And furthermore, the control of NPC faction diplomacy from factions that are official should be divided according to the activity and merits of said factions.

If one particular faction represents the NPCs for say a year, and then comes another one, for example..
The power to control NPC faction policy *must* be divided between the two if both show enough prowess to capably lead it.
If one fails, the other one should get more power.
Simple as that.
Personally, I believe and always SHALL believe that a democratic system is an utter pre-requirement to everything.

Rather simply said:
No monopolies. No no and just no.

I see your point.

So you basically mean that it would be better to have all factions that go under the same NPC group to form a council that would then decide the course of action they should follow?
If so, it's a great idea that addresses a problem that is currently present on the server.

That would also give place to new RP opportunities, since there could be civil wars, splits, ingame and forumside council meetings, and a lot more things that do not happen often around here.


Now, in order to decentralize the power of a single faction over an NPC group, the following could be done:

[Image: factionstruct.png]
On this graph, all factions whose alignment falls under the same NPC tag would form a council which will determine the common direction they should follow, along with policies regarding other factions, status inside the NPC group, functions of each other, etc. That way, no single faction would monopolize and NPC group, as the role of those would be played by the council instead of an individual faction.
In the case of the houses, which have multiple NPC that pursue the same goals but have different tasks, )like Police, Navy, etc), the situation should be different, as some of those should be allowed to perform certain actions that others wont or can't do.
Having the police looking for contraband instead of the navy, and having the navy to fight threats that require of military prowess to do so.

Now, should only official factions be permitted to be part of the council? Or should unofficial ones be allowed to form part of it too?

In order to answer that question, bear in mind that a new faction creation process would have to be taken into consideration, which is the one we are discussing now on the Admin forums.

Such process goes as follows:

- A new faction must be first created as an Unofficial faction. We'll call it Group from now on. Official factions can no longer be created from the beginning.
- That group will get the right to apply to became official after some time on the server and after having been reviewed and sufficient merit for it found.
- If they get that right, they then can submit the request, and be reviewed. They can then became official and get all the rights official factions can have, specially a seat in the council of factions, giving them some power over the NPC group they are part of.

So basically:

If you want to create a faction you start with a group and then after some time you make your petition to become official. If approved, you get a seat on the council of factions.


Remember that it's just a draft I just made. It needs to be developed if it is to be tested or implemented.

Okay. I've set the house on fire. Now, lets debate about it!

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"New faction creation process and representation" discussion thread. - by Korrd - 05-26-2009, 06:21 PM
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