' Wrote:Hackers and Junkers cooperate on a neutral basis, neither control the other's interests.
I disagree with you that the Hackers would not know of a Corsair-Junker liaison, strongly disagree, but it would undoubtedly depend on circumstances. If the liaison involved artifact trade inside Liberty, the Hacker solution would be extreme and effective. I don't see how Corsairs could maintain such activity. Corsairs don't have any power in Liberty, and the Junkers can't but wouldn't oppose the Hackers or Rogues. If I misunderstand, elaborate.
In terms of diplomacy, let me reiterate: it is not a problem that the Corsair stance toward Rogues is hostile, even if the reciprocal stance is neutral. The Corsair-Hacker diplomacy, on the other hand, is definitely all red.
Perhaps I should be more concise in this post: you have not taken any wrong steps in your role-play and your conclusions are fundamentally correct.
Perhaps my words were not chosen well. "Liason" is not in anyway meant to mean treaty or agreement. I'll ask this, Why would Junkers tell Hackers anything? Why would they tell Hackers that there are Corsair Smugglers running Artifacts to their bases. Junkers run both sides of the fence, they do not blow their cover.
Junkers certainly can oppose the Hackers and Rogues but choose not to to maintain their stance and hold. They are not usually technologically as capable as Hackers, but I can guarantee they outnumber them. Nor are they as fierce as the Rogues, but again, I would say Junkers outnumber the Rogues, nor are they stupid.
I don't see how someone can say "Lane hackers have the majority of artifact operations in Liberty" when Corsairs and Hackers/Rogues are enemies. Again, I would need to see some forum RP for me to consider that statement legitimate.
Thanks for the diplomacy and concise clarification. I thought the RP was ok. It's good to have outside confirmation.
' Wrote:Not to intrude and nothing to do with any specific role play but for clarification--Rogues support the WAR on Outcast side and make capital ships for use in it--the majority being assumed to be deployed on the frontlines?
Am I wrong on this--hasn't this always been the case? its mentioned in news and rumors or was.
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That's what I thought so too. There was a huge uproar in 4.84 about the Rogues being a little less supportive of Outcasts and leaning more to the centre with the Corsair/Outcasts relations. I don't know what became of that and don't know where to look. I just spent 45 minutes in the Diplomatic threads looking for stuff related to this. As far as I know rogues have become "less hostile" but that is not necessarily reciprocated from the Corsair end.
' Wrote:Alcatraz is mentioned on the infocard as playing host to Corsairs in Liberty space...I guess that implies non-hostility in order for them to land there?...
I don't know. That might be something that needs to be looked at in the infocard "fixes" since that would fly in the face of the other Corsair / Rogue relations that I know of.
Still, has the Corsair elders or OPG (head) given a transmission to not threaten Rogues or their allies?
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