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[SimonBlack]

Well Kreia also said that a jedi without the Force is nothing. A mere man, a woman or a child. If you train hard all your life, use devious tactics as Atton (gassing, poisioning, backstab) or just get really lucky you might kill a jedi. As Atton said, they aren't all that tough when you know how to approach them.

An example would be Mandalorians. They killed jedi, yet were not Force sensitive. Order 66. Clone troopers shot them up. Very devious of them.

But the best example is probably Battle Of Geonosis. A handful of jedi lost to hundred of war droids. The droids outnumbered the jedi, but they were still, only droids. The jedi were forming a defencive circle as the droids pushed them back. Only the timely arrival of reinforcments allowed them to regroup and claim victory with the help of clones, of course.

While playing KOTOR I remember dieing quite a lot (mostly because I put an emphasis on inteligence, charisma, other roleplaying attributes than always leveling up strength. Either way, if you're not strictly combat orentated you do die..mostly it's an 'oops, I shouldnt have underestimated a single mom'). The Mandalorian on Dantooine (main boss) got me 2 out of 3 times. The third time I went in prepared, set up some mines, used stealth generator and got the upper hand in the end, but damn that Mandalorian was a tough nut!:D

I would get shot by blasters too. An embarassing end for a jedi, but it was my oown fault for being so cocky and turning onto seven double-vibro bladed mercenaries... ( I did take down at least 3-4 with me though, so yay!:D)

Now in reality (as real as science fiction can get) my puny jedi would have died before he faced all of the trials to actually become a jedi.

Think about a level 6 - 8 jedi in KOTOR/KOTOR 2 (I personally enjoyed second the most). There are (possibly) a lot more of simple minded padawans than Jedi Masters. Not all feel the force as easily as Darth Vader. I imagine channeling is quite hard. A struggle to some, who are Force sensitive, but do not possess the talent of Anakin. Much like the Disciple from KOTOR 2.

However, jedi/sith are in no way weak. They might match a very good soldier at the beggining of their journey, but Jedi have limitless possibilities. Their growth is beyond limits (much like in Matrix, heh?). Eventually they become so strong that they do not need to worry about blasters, grenades or even proton devices. The only other adversary can be another powerful Jedi, because no matter how good a perfect Bounty Hunter is - he still has limits.

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Character background summaries:
Red Hessians Major Matthias Schwarz
Golden Chrysanthemums Chusa Fumiko Shimazu