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[Malcolm_Reynalds]

We on the admin team have both rule 1.2 and rule 1.3.

1.2 Server administrators will impose sanctions on players for violating server rules and for any actions that harm server gameplay.

1.3 Administrators are obliged:

- To ensure work of Discovery Freelancer server;
- To be fair and treat all players equally, independent of their level and faction alignment;
- Not to mix server roleplaying with server administration in any way;
- Not to ignore any cases of server rules violations that are reported.

Before I say anything else,
I have no issue with Agmen of Eladesor or any other Admin in their enforcing of the rules, I am stating my observation of a possible loophole in 5.6 that the recent sanction has illustrated to me.

There have also been numerous discussions AND a very nice rules tutorial written by someone (pats self on back) that describes how this rule works in furballs. This wasn't a furball. This was a disengagement due to overwhelming firepower showing up on one side.

I would totally agree if it were another player ship that chased him off. from reading the sanction report it did not sound like he ran away from another player ship, he left the area of a base. . .the Essex did not "show up" but it was rather "fled to". When did running from an NPC or NPC base become fleeing?

Put the shoe on the other foot - you're an Order pilot being chased by a bounty hunter and you get close enough to Isis that it drives the hunter off. If he sticks around within 10K - it's all good, he can wait on you to come back out. If he gets 11K or more out - he's disengaged and must leave Minor. Before you complain about us enforcing the rules on one player - think about how we have to enforce them on ALL players. And don't ever think that I would hesitate to sanction a BHG| pilot if he broke the rules.

Ok, but if. . .

The Order player being chased escaped to 11k of the bounty hunter in open space, wouldn't it then be defined as the Order Player fleeing?
The Bounty hunter stopped chasing 11k from the Isis, and the Order player continued there, wouldn't it also be defined as the Order Player fleeing?

In your example and in both my alternate scenarios one simple fact remains : The Order ship is running away from the Bounty hunter!
How then could there be another outcome besides "The Order Player Fled"?

perhaps adding a "C" to 5.6 in the spirit of stopping people from the "I didn't dock, so I didn't flee" defense when they flee to a base. taking a battle close to your base makes sense, but simply hiding behind one to avoid the dock fleeing rule isn't quite right IMO.

5.6 Fleeing in combat counts as a PVP death. Fleeing is:

a) Docking with a jump gate, station or tradelane;
b) Moving more than 10km from the fight
c) "hiding" in close proximity of a friendly base for more than 10 minutes to avoid definitions A and B.