Any lawful's left in Disco?

[BaconSoda]

Here is the simple reason why being an unlawful is more attractive than a lawful:

It is HARD to be an unlawful in real life. If you rob a bank, chances are they're going to catch you. It's difficult to steal stuff. And everyone knows that rebels get more girls than not-rebels. So, to attract all the honeys, people gravitate towards pirates instead of the honest, hardworking men that are a dime a dozen in real life. I mean, anyone can go off and join the armed forces. Until recently, all the European Countries I had an interest in living it had military service as a mandatory civil service for blossoming young adults.

So, to wrap it up, being a lawful can easily happen in the RLs. Being a pirate, not so much. Mysterious attracts opposite sex. Hormones go wild and BOOM lots of pirates.

I think the problem is with a particular ID.
Pilots can pirate for ore and then fly right infront of a lawful and dock on a lawful base despite the fact that his goods are stolen and no-one except the pirate and piratee would know.
The balance (or circles) has shifted.

The law can't patrol this because they don't know who is what. It's no longer clear.
Sadly, tricks like these will start to unravel the RP basis.
A lot of players now pick the best ship, guns and ID rather than the best RP weapons, ship, ID etc

To me, this seems like good RP on the part of the miners. When the line between unlawful and lawful gets smudged, unlawfuls are doing a good job of hiding their activities. Afterall, no one walks around with a nametag saying:

Hi. I ordered the Secret Service to break into Watergate. My name is John Q. Nixon

Of course, the type of RP where one either wins or loses completely is often very disgruntling to people. I personally enjoy and appreciate it, even on the losing side, however, most people simply do not like losing and losing without hope of compromise...



Also, I somehow doubt that people even know the RP of the Miners or the capabilities of their ships, mainly because the Mining Ship has enough armor to withstand a SN stock, biggest Transport powerplant, and more guns than a Gunboat. Really, now, there are very few ships which are a better choice for fending people off and running than a mining ship. If you're losing in that thing, seriously reconsider your strategy.

And second is to remove from -every- unlawful ID card that demanding credits is allowed.
Shall them get themselves an associate as hauler and pirate for cargo.

Start a revolution and get a Pirate in a common transport (Behemoth, Big Dragon, Percheron, Mammoth, etc.)

Ya, this is a problem... there is a lack of people available to act as an escort. The impression I got, maybe I'm wrong, is that at the moment the balance of power is really shifted in favor of pirates. So, utill something will be changed, what we will see is... more and more pirates, less and less traders... not talking about escorts whose work is less remunerative than traiding or pirating.

So, there is an open market for you to fit into! Jump in and make loads of money! Go on! Make an escort!

90% ? Your figures are, as I tell you, hugely incorrect. I know many great RP'ers from most major Liberty trading factions.

Seems to me that you're just an arrogant, bitchy and angry pirate who perhaps met a few powertraders. Your RP may be no better than what I'd expect from an average pirate.

Who are you to judge the RP standards of every trader on the server? Huh?

You really should try pirating. When it comes to losing, the RP slowly fades away. And heaven forbid someone give you strong RP reason for losing....

Maybe... to be honest... this is what happen in very many cases:


Pirate: 10 mil or you die!
Trader: OOC: wait a min
Pirate: you are running!

(the tradere was just answering a phone call in real world and his trasport was not moving at all)

The pirate attacks and destroy the trader.


Is this roleplay? I would name it in a different way... before blaming traders for lack in RP, go around and check how much RP is really done by pirates...

Guns are a big part of Roleplay. If I have a gun, and you have your body, who has an advantage? I have an advantage. Do what I say, or I will blow you away. That is how it is with pirating. If I have the capability to kill you, and you do not want to cooperate, I will kill you. Easy as. That is all part of RP.

RP isn't just words put into a sentence and put on a screen. RP is about actions. Words backup actions and fill in the blanks we can't fill with the spaceships. The greater political motives, filler sentences, messages of intricate intent, that's what words are for. However, if your words don't get you what you want, then your guns are there to sooth your pain. If this were only about text, we'd all be playing text RPGs in space.

This is sooo much more like what i have seen. Heck i got "stop" i said "nah" Then i here "ok now you die" Then i get hit by 2 super nova's,and a ton of nuke mine's. Whole encounter lasted maybe 30 sec's. I never even got a demand for cash, or cargo. And before anyone tell's me screen it,and put in sanction's... Well i did,and nothing. So you see. A pirate can do anything he want's,and get's away with it. A lawful doe's anything,and sanction city. Just look in sanction's. Most are lawful's. I will admit they may be because of real nasty OORP,or other ofences,but i have seen the same with pirate's but nothing.

That is why people are going pirate. To much leeway to what they can do,but lawful's have a strict guideline of what they cannot do.

Actually, there are more rules on pirating than any other aspect of the game. Lawfuls are even exempt from rules (Traders and 4 hour rule anyone?). Pirates really are bound by more rules, but, because they "Get away" with so much, it seems like they don't. A lawful catching a smuggler is not him "Getting away" with anything, but, a pirate deviously seducing a trader into a corner and escaping police is him "Getting away" with it, and so it seems like there are less rules. Thing is, there is just more room to be creative on a pirate. That or it's much easier to be creative...

Actually, pissing off pirates when they're on top of their prey seems fun to me

Yup. Gets a good punch in the mouth. I love it when people sass me on my pirate when I know I can kill them. Puts them in their place.

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.