System Balance - the houses

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Also, people need to stop mistaking the term 'Bretonia' to mean the Bretonian Government.. It doesn't. Systems designated with a house name are NOT part of that house's government territory. Bretonia/Kusari/etc are regions of space, as well as names of the government. Systems are designated by where they are, what region, not who controls them. Londonderry is in the Bretonian REGION, but the Bretonian Government has no control there.. People mistake system designators way too often. I direct your attention to Okinawa, which is designated as Kusari on the map, but is under control of GMG, not the Kusari Government.

So then, what is the point of naming them that way? I'm looking at this from an RP point of view.

So say the Bretonia lands and forms the kingdom of bretonia. Then they go out, explore, include some systems to form Bretonia (the reigeon). However, eventually, now they have a huge kingdom spanning over so many systems, its almost ridiculous. However, half of these don't even have the presence of the Bretonian Kingdom.

Places named after a region of space... Ok, let me give a few examples.

Okinawa: As said, it is owned completley by the GMG. Then why is it even under the Kusari region? Shouldn't it be an independant system? It runs itself independantly, without the influence of the Kusari Empire (to some extent).

All the guard systems of unlawful factions: They too, run themselves independantly. For the sake of OORP and RP sense, I think they should be independant of border/edgeworlds.

Iverness (ehh, the only NPCs here are junkers...)
Chester (nomads? I suppose this could be included in bretonia...)
Yukon (only zoner bases here)

etc. I'm sure theres more.

Think about what a core system is.. Very heavily populated, usually habitable planets, large numbers of stations, and above all else; High numbers of Police and Military patrols. A house can't do this everywhere. It's simply not financially acceptable. Why would Kusari make Tau-29 heavily populated when two or three stations would be more than enough to profit off of the system... Any more than that would be a waste of resources. They also can't afford constant police patrols around the system to protect corporations. When the corporations expand to the edges or beyond the edges of a house's controlled space, it's up to them to protect their own installations.

Core systems would be rare. Think of them as major cities. Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, etc. Then the medium cities would be the border systems. The smaller they are, the more numerous they are. Core systems would be few, border systems decent in numbers, then non-controlled space would be high in numbers. Lets take Kusari for example.
Core:
New Tokyo
Kyushu
Honshu
Shikoku
-These are the Kusari-claimed/controlled systems, heavily populated.

Border:
Okinawa
Nagano
Hokkaido
Tau-29
Etc
-These are sparse-to-heavy in population, can be controlled (Hokk/T-29) or uncontrolled (Okinawa/Nagano) by the government.

Everything beyond has mininal-to-no house control and generally few corporate stations.

Yes, I admit that there should not be many. But this is also to expand player feel of the place, as well as NPC feel. Obviously, there are few "major major" cities, but shouldn't there be a few "lesser major" cities as well? Currently in discovery we have

4 major system - I'm fine.

100 mini-systems with 1 or no bases - ehh... 1 base can be counted as a smaller city now? Okay, some systems like tau 29 - fine. But how many of them are there? maybe 3 in a house?

Thats really what I was getting at.

Why? You're mixing up region and controlled here. Just because it says a house's name, doesn't mean it's controlled by that government. (I know I keep repeating this, but I'm trying to make sure it's known. People have been making this mistake too often..)

Ok, I get it. But still, it doesn't make sense for independantly run systems to even be under the bretonian region of space. Independant systems should be labled independant systems. Or should be in the border/edge worlds, where no-one gives a damn. It doesn't really make sense, in my opinion, for independant systems to be included in even the house reigon. The region of space would be... entirely known to the government would it not? Therefore regions of space such as Lewis would be able to fall in a few seconds.

And would you like to deal with all the problems when we update mod versions and the server crashed every 5 minutes because people are trying to log onto characters that were docked in systems that no longer exist? Removing a system isn't easy, and it creates a whole lot of bugs. Furthermore, we're simply not going to do it. Especially since a lot of effort goes into making these, lets not waste it.. I agree, houses should be generally close, but remember that in-RP, Liberty has a much higher population than any other house. Kusari has the smallest.. That would have a big impact on the number of populated systems. Also, the economic condition of that house would also greatly influence how much they can expand. At the end of the Nomad war, Rheinland and Kusari were both devastated economically and in military power. They both worked very hard to rebuild those fleets, but an economy takes time to rebuild.. It isn't simple, and it's the economy that allows a house and corporation to expand.

I meant reducing as in reducing their status from house region to independant/border/edge

They are counted under that house region, not that house government. The Rogue Guard system isn't under the Liberty Government's control, but it's still part of the Liberty region.

Cassini, the rouge guard system, isn't in the liberty region. Its an independant world as it should be.

Lets not compare Gallia to the rest of Sirius, that's a completely different matter altogether. Also, these border systems do get tradelanes. Okinawa? Sigmas, Taus, Omegas? They all have trade lanes, and they are all border systems. Sigmas are under the control of no house, but still have trade lanes in them.. But far-out systems like Tau-23 simply don't have enough infrastructure to justify trade lanes. Also, places that are small and take only a few minutes to traverse in cruise don't need trade lanes either. Think about Tau-23.. It really isn't big enough for trade lanes.. You'd enter and exit in a total span of about 5-10 seconds. That's too short for a company or house to dish out cash and resources for tradelanes that aren't needed. Tradelanes are used in places that are high in traffic, not borderworlds.

So SOMEHOW... Gallia,

1. Arrived late in sirius
2. would have at least spent another 100-200 years gathering intelligence on tradelanes/jumpgates, possibly 300
3. And yet have 5 BORDERWORLD systems FULLY populated, not even including New Paris and the other "core" systems? I assume this would mean that the core systems will have nothing in them? Even so, Gallia has 5-6 fully-populated systems. A little over the top, considering that Kusari has 4, Bretonia has 5, Rheinland has 5, and Liberty also has 5. Also consider the size of those systems. Look at Burgundy for example, is waaay more populated than say... Pennsylvania, possibly even Colorado. Probably more than Newcastle too. That also goes for most of the other gallic border systems. So somehow we are meant to understand that Gallia has a population at least 1.5 if not 2 times the size o Kusari, even though they arrived far afterward and have been living in ioslation? Do the french love having sex or something?