7- and 8-gun gunboats

[Ursus]

Regarding the 7/8 turret funboats, how many of those are there??
Tridente, Imperator, Hathor and Ku Ex, maybe 2 more.... yes their a threat, but Ku Ex cant fire all turrets in one direction, neither can tridente, however, Hathor can fire all 8 back and forward unless this has been changed since 4.85.

Well its not just the unlawfuls with heavy hitters. The Bret and Liberty GBs are both 7-turrets, with more generous firing arcs, and they both destroy the "nimble" unlwawful gunboats in their space.

Bret GB versus Gaian GB is not even a contest, and its all because the Bret GB has 7 turrets with at least 5 pointing everywhere while the Gaian GB has 5 forward and 4 everywhere else. The Gaian GB is supposed to make up for it with small forward profile and agility, but with TS it doesn't matter since the Bret GB can just sit there and moves the cursor around, and the Gaian GB cant keep the nose on it all the time. Even worse because the poor Gaian GB can only use basic turrets so it is probably the worst GB in the game right now, because of bad firing arcs. I dont think I've ever seen a Gaian GB beat a Bret GB in the field. This is similar problem with Kusari GB and Tridente, which is pretty common, in that Kusari used to be able to flit around the Tridente but now with TS its just a delete action.

Likewise the Liberty GB versus LH GB, the latter can fire 6 turrets *directly* forward and 4 everywhere else (even firing while turning only uses 4 turrets). Meanwhile the Liberty GB has 7 turrets and 4-5 at just about every angle. Just move the cursor around while the LH is flopping around trying to keep its turrets forward. And the LH GB has way less hull than the Liberty GB too so the LH GB cant take nearly as much abuse, agility does not make enough difference to offset the turret arcs. I have seen the LH GB win some fights, but not 50-50 by any means though, the Lib GB has the clear advantage.

Rogue/Molly GB has 6 everywhere except backwards, and it can give the Liberty GB a run for the money. Bret GB can still beat it pretty easily though.

Orca is 5 forward and 6 out the sides/rear, so if I can keep the side facing the target or get it to chase me, it will win. In a head-on fight it has a disadvantage. With TS this means I have an advantage over ships that have high forward turrets and low side turrets (the LH and Gaian, for example, both of which are pretty simple to beat in TS).

General proposition stands, more turrets generally are winner. They should all be normalized to 4-5 turret arcs, either by restricting the arcs or by restricting the core.

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