oh, and Divine, unless you did not know. peaple can change.. at least in my book. I havent gone as pessimistic as that yet.
And if I say its dishounorable, its because peaople who Are at java, want to be able to have a drink there while been safe from any intruder, Because they have gone mad about constanct attacks.
It is equally worst for base camper, yea you see outcast saying crap at right in your face 24/7.. Well I say crap but its mostly camper that call for a gank when they see more then 1 sunbcraft.
My opinion about the issue was that it is a problem of position.