Yeah, this is probably going to turn into one of those long posts I make from time to time, so if you have issues with a wall of text, skip it and don't bother commenting.
Also, please no metagaming due to certain things that will be mentioned in here, either.
Okay, as we all know we have had some issues with the Bounty Hunters Guild Core ID and what people DO with that ID, as well as how it's viewed by people. This also comes from the conflict that comes up with the PvP / Bounty rules verus our role play as the BHG|Core. We also realize that this is exacerbated by there quite literally not being anyone around anymore who was in the original Core - so while their role play may have been discussed with them by the Devs, we're not them anymore.
We've had a long discussion about where we want to go with the Guild Core, and with public perceptions. I'll go through some of the results here.
First, the public perception (and for general public consumption) is that Bounty Hunters Guild Core is a subsidiary of the Bounty Hunters Guild. However, the REALITY is that the Guild is a subsidiary of the Guild Core. Some of the back history is that the Guild Core was founded by a group of wealthy Bretonians that had been made that way by their ship and station building endeavors and quite frankly, are their own empire builders. Some of this was mentioned and discussed here - http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67255.
' Wrote:A note on why the Guild funds the Core- the Core brings back important weapons and resources for the rest of them. More importantly, however, some of the leaders of the Guild are megalomaniacs, and like the idea of conquering stuff rather than just being filthy rich. A dedicated, professional navy can do things that a guild cannot. Hold ground, claim the resources on that territory, and carve out an empire from the less tangible riches of Nomad space. A full monopoly on the iridium surrounding Dabadoru, for instance, would not be possible without a Core fleet protecting it; that's income right there, and it will only pay off more as those less tangible technological improvements start coming in.
The Core uses Guild weapons and ships because they're employed by the same wad of cash (and more importantly, the same wad of cash's engineers).
So, we've established that the Guild Core is an actual (effectively private) Navy, NOT just a group of bounty hunters in big ships.
Now we have fun with the ID.
Quote:Can attack Order, Nomad or Wilde and anyone actively assisting them.
Can demand allied pilots, Nomad technology and Nomad specimens from other ships and destroy ships if they refuse to hand them over (Cruisers or Battleships may demand pilots only).
That's where, with the splitting between the Order and the Corsairs, we laid down the basis for our NAP with the Corsairs, which has worked diplomatically, but slowed down a lot of the combat in the Omicrons. (You can only shoot the Order so many times.) This also was the basis for our little war with the Zoners in the Omicrons, because they were assisting the Order and also wouldn't turn over captured Nomads.
And that also resulted in charges of effectively our entire faction being guilty of PvP abuse, because we were not attacking people to claim bounties, we were attacking people that we were allowed to shoot under our ID. There was a bounty open that we could claim - we just weren't claiming it because we didn't feel that we needed to do so - for exactly the same reason that the LN doesn't have to claim bounties against the RM, or the BAF doesn't have to claim bounties against the KNF. It's allowed under our ID.
And that also brings up something that we have said for more than TWO YEARS. We as a faction don't collect bounties, and we'd like to see the ID changed to reflect that the Guild Core may NOT claim bounties. Note that this would, by its very nature, eliminate any issues regarding cap ships working as miner escorts in Omega 7. (And would also eliminate the issue of us getting involved with the GRN war with our caps, too, that people have been freaking out about. We said that the only reason we were interested in them was because they have strange tech - and strange tech is what we're interested in.)
Yeah, from your general public sense, you're going wait, but your name is the Bounty Hunters Guild Core, but you don't colelct bounties? WTF?
That ALSO fits into our RP, though. We are a secretive group that happens to fly some of the same ships as the regular hunters because we SUPPLY the ships to the regular hunters. But we're not regular hunters - we're a group that is seeking our own little empire. And we're working on getting it ... in RP, of course.
I refer you AGAIN to the post Dash made, which is consistent with our internal RP. We're a secretive bunch that
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
