Indeed. Though unfortunately, at least Kiretsu would've probably cut off from IC even if you had clearly declared your intentions. I was talking about it last weekend. IC isn't really trying to support, aid, etc the GC at all anymore (mentioned that in my post). Sort of a "you either stick to your commitments, or we make you feel what Samura feels."
' Wrote:Sorry, what international laws?
What's the minimum they must reach?
Is the contract 5 lines long as it was showed in those quotes?
As I said, I'm not a master on this, and GMG probably still sell H-Fuel, not through Honshu of course. But are they reaching the minimum? If so, isn't IC allowed to claim?
What minimum? By not having a minimum, GMG can ensure the IC do their best to keep Okinawa productive. It's GMG's security that IC will not try to impede them.
' Wrote:More than that, if Darth talked with the GMG players about it, is it wrong? That's the way the GMG-Kusari conflict started, by an OORP agreement between players. Yes, there are flaws, IC can easyly state that the GMG sells didn't reach the minimum.
I don't know if he talked to them or not. You're not paying attention to my posts though. I don't care if Darth made his RP. He has every right to. The only problems I have are in-roleplay, and I've already done the RP posts concerning it. I gave my opinions here because several people asked for them.
' Wrote:The GMG is not deciding to sell fuel you say, but, I wonder if they thought Kusari will allow them to sell Fuel through Honshu once they started shooting Kusarians, and I wonder if that's not in IC's minds right now. You said they didn't decide it, but they kinda forced it, again by agreement between players.
Again; Kusari is TRYING to stop them from selling it. GMG is still getting that fuel out though. GC take it from GMG to Bretonia, and to the Outcasts. GMG also smuggles it out. GMG knows where the JHs are, the Naval Forces don't. This was already said.
' Wrote:There are flaws, but nothing that couldn't be worked out just fine, which is what is needed, instead of a huge "NO U" to the IC for trying to open the Okinawa gate in honshu to traders.
No one is giving the IC a NO U. No one is angry at IC. Friday posted concerning how IC set up some of their RP. They were setting up a contract that is not fully written anywhere, okay. Fine. However, some of what they used contradicted lore. I don't care about minimum or no minimum. IC said GMG had a loan to repay and had defaulted on it, and that part only is what we're concerned with, as it contradicts the lore that is there. The stuff they make up is fine as long as it doesn't contradict anything. It's that one part that does contradict that is what people are concerned about. NOT angry about.
' Wrote:Wanna get deeper in arguing about the contract, show a contract then, right now, arguing about it is pointless, and it doesn't exist, and the dev team, you included, didn't see this coming, now it's a bit late to bring a shinny contract to justify your points, Dab.
The contract is there. In clear, written wording, no. But part of what the contract (that the player factions could write up between them) has in it IS expressed. The important part; IC finances the construction of the system, in return for a 5% cut of the profits, permission to set up a base, and permission to store and haul H-fuel. This is the basis of the contract. That contract IS there. It's not something I just made up once this situation started. It's been there since .85 has existed. (Technically since BEFORE.) The exact wording and minor parts of the contract can be filled in by the player factions.
' Wrote:There are no international laws, there are no contracts, there is nothing writen, but a few rumors, demanding the IC to show those things that we all know don't exist to justify something they agreed with the factions involved in the conflict, well that's crap as well, don't you think?
I know a lot of factions and house government leaders consider current RL international laws as still in effect in Sirius. While IC may claim that they aren't, those that DO support those international laws can still try to take action against someone breaking them.
No one is demanding IC to show anything. I don't know what your argument here is. People are saying that one part of IC's posts (the part about GMG defaulting) does not fit what lore does exist. That's all there is to it.