' Wrote:"And I almost forgot.. What kind of international law are you using to justify this move?
IN RP, Fine. Your character (god knows her) is trying to put some pressure, or is just curious about some international laws that no one ever heard about, but might exist. It's fine.
' Wrote:International law sides with GMG on this one, not IC.
You commenting on the IC Feedback thread that international laws side with GMG. So, what international laws?
' Wrote:What minimum? By not having a minimum, GMG can ensure the IC do their best to keep Okinawa productive.
It's GMG's security that IC will not try to impede them.
I don't know if he talked to them or not. You're not paying attention to my posts though. I don't care if Darth made his RP. He has every right to. The only problems I have are in-roleplay, and I've already done the RP posts concerning it. I gave my opinions here because several people asked for them.
Again; Kusari is TRYING to stop them from selling it. GMG is still getting that fuel out though. GC take it from GMG to Bretonia, and to the Outcasts. GMG also smuggles it out. GMG knows where the JHs are, the Naval Forces don't. This was already said.
No one is giving the IC a NO U. No one is angry at IC. Friday posted concerning how IC set up some of their RP. They were setting up a contract that is not fully written anywhere, okay. Fine. However, some of what they used contradicted lore. I don't care about minimum or no minimum. IC said GMG had a loan to repay and had defaulted on it, and that part only is what we're concerned with, as it contradicts the lore that is there. The stuff they make up is fine as long as it doesn't contradict anything. It's that one part that does contradict that is what people are concerned about. NOT angry about.
The contract is there. In clear, written wording, no. But part of what the contract (that the player factions could write up between them) has in it IS expressed. The important part; IC finances the construction of the system, in return for a 5% cut of the profits, permission to set up a base, and permission to store and haul H-fuel. This is the basis of the contract. That contract IS there. It's not something I just made up once this situation started. It's been there since .85 has existed. (Technically since BEFORE.) The exact wording and minor parts of the contract can be filled in by the player factions.
I know a lot of factions and house government leaders consider current RL international laws as still in effect in Sirius. While IC may claim that they aren't, those that DO support those international laws can still try to take action against someone breaking them.
So GMG could simply made the deal, and stop selling Fuel if they decided to shut down everything, giving a lot of loses to IC? Brillant move for IC leaders. A contract for a percentage of a sell with no minimum is very risky, with the HUGE amount of money IC invested on Okinawa, I'd believe they at least demanded a minimum to fulfil, bringing up this point is like bringing up some international laws, don't you think? It looks dumb to argue about something that doesn't exist, I do kinda fail with this, because I'm contradicting myself, you can't argue about things that doesn't exist, otherwise, the first one to call it is the winner, aka international laws, aka minimum.
Bindo's mistake was typing "loan" instead of "not selling enough fuel".
Also, I'm not saying KNF is stopping all the GMG sells, what I'm saying is that the sells that used to move through the Honshu gate are now stopped, of course, in RP, both parties agreed on that by their actions.
If through unlawful factions or through jump holes they still sell fuel in the same level, is up to discussion, I personally doubt that the GMG is selling at the same rate that without the embargo. Also, GMG knows the Jump Holes, the outcasts know them too, the corsairs know them too, the hogosha, the farmers, the list goes on, jump holes are not a secured lane though.
Quote:No one is demanding IC to show anything. I don't know what your argument here is. People are saying that one part of IC's posts (the part about GMG defaulting) does not fit what lore does exist. That's all there is to it.
That's not what I can tell from your IN RP post in the IC communication, call me biased, but I won't believe it's just a coincidence that you mention those international laws here and there. Sorry but no, that's demanding them to show those laws, or to obey them. I'd even dare to say powergaming, but I don't want to be crucified, it's not easter anymore.
But meh, wanna be right? Ok, you are right. You know you shouldn't try to convince me.