Making the "Jinkusu - Zoner Juggernaut" SRP only

[n00bl3t]

Then let me ask the other way around: "Why is a ship meant to be a seldom sight even purchable on a guard station?"

Seldom in sight, not in number.

Not to mention, what are you meant to RP if you are seldom seen? There would be nothing to do.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[frozen]

Flip. People have much better things to do than writing out RP to satisfy your whimsical fancies.

agreed, tbh.

i own a zoner juggernaut, and have done for the past 2 years. it is a zoner guard tagged+ID'd ship, but its' RP is that my arms dealer bought it and heavily modified it to be used as a mobile arms dealing base, and as a flagship of my arms dealing company, that was IC tagged, but later joined with the IND. i already have had to adjust quite a bit, explaining why i have a zoner jugg as an armoury/flagship in liberty (which i do everytime), and ive also had to change my tag/ID because of all the rules and restrictions that were becoming a dime a dozen. (speaking of which, my zoner jugg cant even fight to save its life- it has 16 different bs turrets mounted, all with different ranges and stuff, because i never meant for it to be used in PVP whatsoever.)

i do not see any reason for this change, and i refuse to have to be stuck writing and justifying a 2 year old ship because of some idiots who fail to roleplay and **** up everything for the rest, 'scuse me french. i have other stuff to do than to succumb to the whims of others, to be honest. if someone's doing something wrong, throw in a report. that still works rather well. i dont see why should we (particularly, I) suffer.

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[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

Why the hell is there this anti-cap sentiment in Disco right now anyway?
Capitals are near the bottom of the list of 'bad' ships in reality. Fighters and bombers are at the top.

Because the folks saying caps are nerfed are starting to make too much sense, so they need to get caps nerfed further so their fighter/bomber swarms can continue 'pwning' at will.

Question being... if all Caps got SRP'd (even a SRP light) then they could get a boost in shield/armour to be truly the 'end-game' warships.

Same point Ive raised, SRP lite em to somewhat restrict access.

But since theyre semi restricted, make them not suck.

i do not see any reason for this change, and i refuse to have to be stuck writing and justifying a 2 year old ship because of some idiots who fail to roleplay and **** up everything for the rest,

Welcome to Disco GC!

Didnt you know flying caps iz evil ?
Why do you think the balance team made fighters and bombers so over powerd ?
They dont want you in a strong easy to hit cap, they want you in a uber strong imposible to hit snubcraft.

[kuth]

Gah. As I see it, the zoner factions are playing politics. This has arisen from all the hullabaloo of the CoZ breakdown and not out of genuine concern.

The Zoners have always gotten rid of problem capitals. (Keep reading.)

Saronsen's was an exception, but that had a purpose, and was role-played well.

Cam's, well, he is usually quite well in it, however, beating on his ships, avatar and signature became the new forum "lolfad". (Usually getting beaten down by people who have not actually interacted with him or who have spent less time on this server and forums than he has on his juggernaut.)

But all that is besides the point, as you nailed it earlier. The infocard does not mean there is only one.

Really? We got rid of problem capitals? Care to make me a list? Saronsen kept his ship, we never lifted a finger to have it removed, I believe he lost it due to inactivity. Cam? He still has his, though some of his RP as of recent has caused him problems with almost everyone a Zoner calls a friend. Yet, he still remains.

So, are you going to continue like you always do and claim conspiracy and other such nonesense without providing as much as an ounce of proof or care to spit up some proof? Oh, wait, that's right you don't do that.

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[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

2 ships out of 32+ causing problems. 1 of which many or may not currently exist ingame you say.

Sounds like it's not that bad, overall.

[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

So, are you going to continue like you always do and claim conspiracy and other such nonesense without providing as much as an ounce of proof or care to spit up some proof? Oh, wait, that's right you don't do that.

Nonsense? Practically everyone who joined in '09 jumped on the bandwagon of hating me. Not enough for you? Harcout publically apologized for it.

(Usually getting beaten down by people who have not actually interacted with him or who have spent less time on this server and forums than he has on his juggernaut.)

Thank you for that nooblet, I dont personally care to defend myself in the lands of ones and zeros. It's kept me not slapped for fourm flaming for a while now. You've done it without flaming. A+.

Cam? He still has his, though some of his RP as of recent has caused him problems with almost everyone a Zoner calls a friend. Yet, he still remains.

Such as? Marvin has slaves, synthetic marijuana and a juggernaut. RP it out and dont freaking complain, Christ, you people.

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Can someone really lock this topic its gone far enough...

[Tales23]

"Nonsense? Practically everyone who joined in '09 jumped on the bandwagon of hating me. "

There are no such things as "friends" on the internet.

Now hush, Men that didnt join last year are talking.

Maybe that is the reason?

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[Harcourt.Fenton.Mudd]

Practically everyone who joined in '09 jumped on the bandwagon of hating me.

I joined in 08 actualy. Just lost my old accounts logins during an absence due to PC death.

As for Tales' post and the quote from Marvin there............ yeah THAT is one thing thats sure to piss anyone off.

Join date is about as relevent as post count.

[n00bl3t]

Really? We got rid of problem capitals? Care to make me a list? Saronsen kept his ship, we never lifted a finger to have it removed, I believe he lost it due to inactivity. Cam? He still has his, though some of his RP as of recent has caused him problems with almost everyone a Zoner calls a friend. Yet, he still remains.

So, are you going to continue like you always do and claim conspiracy and other such nonesense without providing as much as an ounce of proof or care to spit up some proof? Oh, wait, that's right you don't do that.

No, not really. Since you want the change, the onus is on you to prove that there is a list of problem capitals which cannot be dealt with under the current server rules.

Having said that, yes, and it was before you came to Discovery, thought I do believe we got rid of some while you were with us anyway. They were usually incorrectly ID'd anyway, and it took little effort since CoZ were pretty much the Zoner populace.

Actually, talking about continuing like we always do, accusing me of conspiracy when I have not uttered the word, nor implied it? Nice. Playing politics is different from a conspiracy. The breakup of the CoZ did have widespread effects, and one of them was factionalised power-play. Deny it as you will, but the absence of CoZ, or decay of it, left a power vacuum. Simple really. Eh.

Ounce of proof time? Show me SS where Cam "misbehaves", since you no doubt are so righteous to have seen it first-hand.

You are right, I sure do not. But you do.

Edit: "OLOLOLOLOL".

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

Funny Nooblet, Watch. Nobody will post a sceenie of me ACTUALLY behaving "Badly" that cannot be dealth with in RP. The second someone posts a WP Crisis screenshot Ill lolwut and disprove it in multiple ways, because I. Was. Not. There. The fact that nobody can produce a screenie of it just proves of them jumping on the lolhatecamfornoreason fad.