(04-07-2014, 04:56 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: You need to look at their view point, the HF are smashed, their fleet is destroyed, they have no funding what so ever - they should and must find a trade partner. .
This is entirely false, at no point was the fleet destroyed and the Legion's coffers are far from destitute. When we wrote the lore for official [HF]'s disbandment, there was no mention of these problems.
(04-07-2014, 04:56 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If the HF were defending these "civilians" they might as well be a legal party trying to overthrown the republic, but they are not - and sacrifices sometimes must be made for the greater cause. You need to look at their view point, the HF are smashed, their fleet is destroyed, they have no funding what so ever - they should and must find a trade partner. Sadly, everyone hates them - and those who don't, can't afford to partner them - Gallia is the lone exception to this, as they are against liberty and bretonia. And inact, because this is bash-gallia mod, I think it would only be fair if more people fougth for the french, regardless of how "mighty" their lore is. Im intrested to know how is it that liberty still manages to hold itself without any actuall damage, when kusari has a bad rep with them, bretonia is smashed - therefore, lib corps are losing money - they cannot ally with rheinland, and still they somehow manage to be just fine. I know that liberty is supposed to be the good guy, and they stand for "liberty" - or atleast thats the image I get - but they can't fight wars all the time - and if they are still as powerful as they are, I think its only fair that smaller factions like HF gain more advantage.
Why would someone trying to liberate Liberty of corrupt influence ally with someone trying to absolutely destroy the ish out of it? People, infrastructure, culture, etc.
(04-07-2014, 04:56 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If the HF were defending these "civilians" they might as well be a legal party trying to overthrown the republic, but they are not - and sacrifices sometimes must be made for the greater cause. You need to look at their view point, the HF are smashed, their fleet is destroyed, they have no funding what so ever - they should and must find a trade partner. Sadly, everyone hates them - and those who don't, can't afford to partner them - Gallia is the lone exception to this, as they are against liberty and bretonia. And inact, because this is bash-gallia mod, I think it would only be fair if more people fougth for the french, regardless of how "mighty" their lore is. Im intrested to know how is it that liberty still manages to hold itself without any actuall damage, when kusari has a bad rep with them, bretonia is smashed - therefore, lib corps are losing money - they cannot ally with rheinland, and still they somehow manage to be just fine. I know that liberty is supposed to be the good guy, and they stand for "liberty" - or atleast thats the image I get - but they can't fight wars all the time - and if they are still as powerful as they are, I think its only fair that smaller factions like HF gain more advantage.
Tel again trying to lecture factions on their own lore and RP?
oh god no!
(01-10-2015, 02:13 PM)Haste Wrote: It's not every day that I read about Somali pirates pirating a US navy aircraft carrier in their speedboats.
The only "lecture" i made was on the HF, however - if you choose to ignore it - its up to you, but you better come up with a good explaination to all the fleet the HF once had. Infact its one of your own members who said so himself. And I thought you people are connected.
Bc you heard something by someone, don't go to the forums and spread what you've read or heard somewhere by someone. I'd take the [HF] will know better about their lore as you do. It's their lore after all.
(04-07-2014, 04:56 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If the HF were defending these "civilians" they might as well be a legal party trying to overthrown the republic, but they are not
Dude, do you realize that killing civilians because you are called unlawful is kinda like agreeing with those who call you that? It is also giving them a reason to call you that. Worst thing a revolutionarist faction relying on popularity can do is not to care about their own public image and the safety of those they are fighting for. Try to think before typing, please.
(04-07-2014, 04:56 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: If the HF were defending these "civilians" they might as well be a legal party trying to overthrown the republic, but they are not
Dude, do you realize that killing civilians because you are called unlawful is kinda like agreeing with those who call you that? It is also giving them a reason to call you that. Worst thing a revolutionarist faction relying on popularity can do is not to care about their own public image and the safety of those they are fighting for. Try to think before typing, please.
I don't see this game as black and white, surely there are grey areas - like xenos attacking commericial traffic, but then thats against HF agenda, yet they are allied - so just let them try whatever they want with gallia - it cant hurt anyone
(04-07-2014, 05:49 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: I don't see this game as black and white, surely there are grey areas - like xenos attacking commericial traffic, but then thats against HF agenda, yet they are allied - so just let them try whatever they want with gallia - it cant hurt anyone
"Yet they are allied" is pretty much the black and white you claimed not to see this game as.
"They are allied only against LN, but otherwise they don't care about what the other shoots in their free time." is how the game looks like to me. And as you see, it is quite colorf... oh, wait, no, you don't see it, sorry, my bad...
thats a failed marketing, on the one hand they stand for the civilian population, but on the other they support their hunters. Perhaps where I come from, our black and white zones are different - you cannot raise that arguement when you admit having an ally whos agenda is completely opposite to what you claim to represent. So is it in a HF's place to tell a xeno to shove it whenever he attempts to hijack a civilian, or would they simply go away.? Either case, HF doesn't care about the civilians - because HF won't say that to the xeno. So while HF do not hunt civilians, its wrong to tell they stand for them. Their "care" for the civilian population isnt "glowing" when you have such a faction in your friend list.
Yes hellfire do not attack civilians, but given these facts - they also dont care about them.
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