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Blood Dragon Wyrm?
Zeltak
08-03-2008, 05:07 PM,
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A Blood dragon looking fighter with black colour instead, man thats something awesome looking thing I wanna fly.
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Offline Telbasta
08-03-2008, 05:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-03-2008, 05:10 PM by Telbasta.)
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' Wrote:A Blood dragon looking fighter with black colour instead, man thats something awesome looking thing I wanna fly.

no black.

Dragon ships have a red tint to the hull, and a dark purple/black color on the 'fins'.

Black hull color is reserved for the hogosha :P

Quote:Black Dragon is not enough for you?

It's great for a VHF... but that still leaves us without a flagship/gunboat, or a bomber. I'm not so concerned about light fighters but I'd really rather not be stuck using even the 'new and improved' pregnant eagle for our bomber. Hogosha are kusari nationalists, they would be much more likely to use a kusari-designed ship than something foreign.


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Offline mjolnir
08-03-2008, 05:27 PM,
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' Wrote:Give the Dragon wyrm some slightly better stats. Nothing really decisive, like strafe speed, but maybe 1000 more armor? Or a bit more power regen?

Ehhh... NO

Wyrm with 600ms Sunfrenzys is kind of average LF overall
better than Wyrm With Daitos (750 synchronized with debilitators ) will be great to awesome LF

I fly both the Wyrm with Sunfrenzys and Liberator with Vengeances(750 as well). Liberator is smaller and turns faster (strafes the same), but the guns are even more decisive.

No Dragon ship has more armor than Kusari counterpart. Usually they have less armor and powersupply but more agility.

No LF in game has bigger powersupply than others.

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Offline Kuraine
08-04-2008, 01:05 PM,
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I'm still after a VHF and bomber for the Golden Chrysanthemums, if anyone is interested in creating one for them?

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Offline chopper
08-04-2008, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-04-2008, 01:16 PM by chopper.)
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Ask Jinx politely, her Kusari models are all very nice.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

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Offline Telbasta
08-04-2008, 02:25 PM,
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' Wrote:I'm still after a VHF and bomber for the Golden Chrysanthemums, if anyone is interested in creating one for them?

If I was any good at modelling i'd have made ships for all of our kusari oddball groups by now :laugh:

What we have:
-Blood Dragon Bomber
-Blood Dragon VHF
-Hogosha VHF (Coming up in 4.85, the "black dragon")

What we need:
-GC VHF
-GC Bomber
-Hogosha Bomber
-FA VHF
-FA Bomber

Now, the FA/AFA Can use the Hogosha shipline, and they probably will end up doing so, but it'd be cool to have angry little pitchfork fighters :P

I'd also like a gunboat for the Hogosha(and AFA), I think the GC can just use the blood dragon gunboat when needed.

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Offline mjolnir
08-04-2008, 02:27 PM,
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I don't really think we "need" GC, FA and hogosha to have own bombers.

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Offline chopper
08-04-2008, 02:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-04-2008, 02:33 PM by chopper.)
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I think it can be settled with one ship only. I agree that Civi bomber isn't too nice for Kusarian factions.
Maybe one generic Kusari bomber, for all of 'em? I think that could work.
It would be weaker and different then Catamarans.

Also, Hogosha has no need of a GB, FA neither. There is a generic Kusari GB that can be used by both. Kusari explorer.
And one more a bit 'generic', IMG GB. No need for another one.

Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del
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Offline Jinx
08-04-2008, 02:35 PM,
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hm - can t we "simply" dye the whole mat file of the wyrm slightly red and copy paste the ini and model?

like i said - an identical version is OK with a BD fixed ID card. - but once the BDs are asking for "give it more agility and we ll give up some armour" - or in short, once bickering about stats starts - it gets a "no" from me.

i don t have good experiences with all the BD ships. - almost none of the ones i have been fighting adhered to BD weapons - all of them used a wide array or krakens, infernos and whatnot - and then i consider them a bit too powerful - they are fine as long as they stick to BD stuff *only*.

so while i agree that a BD wyrm "should" be more agile and less armoured, i simply do not trust the BD factions ( no matter if official or non - factioned ) to stick to their faction weapons - and so, such a powerful LF would be too much.

besides, the wyrm is good enough as it is. - about the modification - i don t know how to extract the mat file from the vanilla ships - but someone that does know it could prolly simply upload it in photoshop and create a new .dds that is slightly more red.

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Offline Telbasta
08-04-2008, 02:40 PM,
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Sorry, but the explorer sucks, and I'm rather against using anything related to the GMG as a hogosha character.

Anyways... a single generic-ish bomber would work well for all three groups I think. The KNF gets all pissed at anyone else using the catamaran, while the dragons (and GC to an extent) have the red catamaran which is even better. It's a bit frustrating to be stuck using the pregnant eagle if we want a bomber.

Perhaps the red catamaran's infocard should just make it both GC and Blood Dragon, and then only one ship needs to be added for Hogosha/FA to balance it out. Then all sides have a bomber of their own.

I still think we should have an alternative to the explorer for a gunboat though. Perhaps a "Kusari Pirate Gunship", aka an equivalent to the rheinland pirate cruiser (though gunboat level instead of cruiser level). It could be listed as built by samura but sold to several private groups within kusari, rarely including the golden chrysanthemums. Blood Dragons would still have their gunboat unique to them, but this would give something that the GC/FA/Hogosha could use.

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