Tax, everyone loves to pay it! (not pirate tax)

[AJBeast]

That might be a good idea, cause law enforcement agencies LOOK like they earn the least money. Traders trade for money , pirates can blow up transports & tax traders , bounty hunters can hunt for bounties, but what can the police do ? Im kinda outside the whole thing , so i dunno ...

[dr lameos]

Police fine those breaking their laws and hunt enemies within their ZoI

Money is earnt from fining (which doesn't often happen)

So... unless tax and wages were implemented the police cannot be fully RP, because they are funded by other chars.

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[Markam]

il admit I had power traders somewhat on my mind when i thought this up.

But also importantly I saw a huge gap in a RP'd way to make money as a police/armed forces member, you can say that they can "fine" smugglers, but let me tell you, that really doesnt happen, rarely if ever.

simply smugglers dont pay fines, they know they cant get the profit from the good, so they'd rather die.

and if a police officer says "pay your trading tax!" and its a measly amount, nowhere near the 2mil, or 3mil as ive seen a pirate will ask of you, you think they'll not pay? seems to me they'd do it.

my main point was getting the police being police, and not trading to buy b/b and ammo, though sure not all have trouble, i imagine indies who just want to be a police/armed forces member has no income whatsoever, so he can request from whomever the appointed person is, a wage, for his labour, many indies are poorly equiped, and they cant go pirate someone for a few easy milion to buy some weapons, so it seems theres a gap between pirates and police.

not to mention things such as Bounty hunter payments, it stimulates different types of players, atleast in theory.

[Linkus]

You essentially want to allow player lawful factions to tax people.
What's to stop them making the tax 2 million?

You could say the community but time and time again we've seen that doesn't work, only sometimes.

I don't know about every pirate there is but really, if you pirate anywhere but the main arteries (AKA Sigma 13 etc) then you get a somewhat meagre flow of cash, nowhere near what a trader earns. Thus they still do trade to get their cash more often than not. This would pretty much be the same, except smaller amounts in terms of cash flow (Well, hopefully).

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[dr lameos]

as said in the first post it would be a set amount
1% sounds totally fine, sure it sounds like nothing - but noone will complain too much so most would pay without question. lots of people paying small amounts adds up

The problems would be defining trading, making ships actually do it (can't kill them for not paying) or stop them without shooting anything (shouldn't shoot a TL or CD someone)

Also, Kusari and Rheinland would gain far more than Bretonia or even Liberty. Bretonia is poor and weak enough anyway!

Not that this money makes a big difference, just makes the forces self-supportive and therefore RP

If you can make it work, i'm all for it

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[El Nino]

There could be an elegant solution via FL-Hook

Each time you jump in to a house system via jumpgate, you are automaticly deduced let's say 1 to 5 % of your cargo worth. (that's the minimum of what the cargo is worth) so for niobium about 420 credits ... the tax would then be for an advanced train around 21000-105000... not high, but enough that an institutionalized system that would auto tax all ships, would bring about some cashflow in to those houses. You could avoid taxation by using jumpholes,...

The money would then go to a some kind of an account, not really players account but states account just a file wher admins could check the ammounts, and then give the money to the factions controling the house... They would have to write requests for cash from the treasury and such...

Pretty much goverments tax you on every step, when you bring your money in the bank, when you get paid, when you pay for something,...

If the FL-Hook solution isn't desirable...: Then get tax collectors, and demand 10% of their total wealth, and put them on the "paid" list so they are considered free for the month...

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[Markam]

If thats possible, thats brilliant, i was just musing again and i wondered if there was figured stored somewhere for the amount of money passing hands in different sectors, and if it was possible to put em in a calculator and divide by 100.... seemed too simple an answer of course, would probably include illegal goods.

Though systems like Dublin wouldnt get much cashflow except from counterfit, Texas wouldnt get any from things over than Cardiamine/slaves, illegal stuff. Manhatten and Artifacts is tricky of course though. Guess its too simple.

[Linkus]

The player factions fail at protecting traders very very often. Why would we want to give them cash?

For another matter, why should the factions get the cash when in actuality, It tends to be the Independants that give the most protection?

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[dr lameos]

The money would/should be shared to indies too

If FLhook can do that it'd be ideal

I don't think illegal items should be taxed, and if every or only jump gates are taxed it pushes traders onto runs like Diamond/Niobium or Cambridge/Kurile (which wouldn't be taxed as only jump holes are used)

Also a run might go through 2,3,4 jump gates, thats multiple tax which isn't really fair, because a trader using gates is actually more RP and therefore they should benefit and be encouraged.

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