A case for Discovery Server Watcher

[Thunderer]

Isn't this considered cheating?

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[Laz]

and theres no way to get rid of the in game playerlist

Hate to be that guy buuuuuuuuuuuut.... this would replace the location element of the list with the current rep of said player. (I'm not suggesting we do it, just saying it's possible)

writing it up from the ground up merely sounds time consuming. Not necessarily difficult.

Seems to be pretty easy tbqh, at least on node just use discord.js, some db to store the configs and you can probably be done in an afternoon with not much functionality.

^this. I was actually working on this a while back, think I still have the files for it somewhere. The Brigand Bot that is in most servers also has integrated functionality for reporting when specified players reach over a certain number. It's controlled by a db, so pretty much every part of it is configurable as well. It's rudimentary, and more acted as a proof of concept for the other project that I never finished.

If there is demand among Discord users, I'll finish it this weekend and get in a state that is more user friendly.

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[Nodoka Hanamura]

@Thunderer
No. Shadowlogging has been seen by the administration as unenforcable and overall the concept of whining over it as negative as seen here:

As for our views on Shadowlogging.
First of all, Shadowlogging is not something that can be ever added to the server rules like Metagaming and Powergaming, due to what it represents. The difference between Shadowlogging and players logging in to participate in player interactions and activity is so borderline thin, it may never be enforced from a rule standpoint. It is too much of a gray area for us to interpret.
Players need to understand that player interactions on Discovery Freelancer come in the form of text roleplay and roleplay action that also include PVP. There will always be players who will log for either of these two interactions. There are going to be malicious parties that try to stomp players into submission, but those can be dealt with under different server rules.

Viewing pvp interaction as shadowlogging is extremely unhealthy for the player, both new and old. Please stop using and mis-using this term.

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[Corile]

An admiin input on this would be quite nice.

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[Alley]

The problem remain the same as always. There is no reason to blame programs, what is to blame is how people use them.

Server Watcher and some other programs have been extensively used to harass targeted players in the past, one of the most notable cases was Doj and SMI. SMI could not log for two minutes before Doj would show up and kill him with ships placed all over sirius to ensure minimal travel time. It has by far not been the sole case of similar behavior.

So really, you're free to make whatever you want. Just be mindful of whom you give such tools.

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Alley was right.

[Corile]

Alternatively just keep a public register of who's monitoring who, I guess.

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[Tunicle]

The quoted green above and Alley's post just above sum it up.

It is impossible to define many things in black and white to an enforceable "always correct" stance, that is life just look at any "law system".

Communities look to blame something or someone, it is the "guns do not kill people, people do" syndrome.

Integrity is what you do when no one is watching; it’s doing the right thing even when it may work to your disadvantage. It tells you where you know you should go. It often gets confused with reputation, in error. Reputation is the public perception of your integrity. But it is other people’s opinion of you, it may or may not be true. Others determine your reputation, but only you determine your integrity.

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[Corile]

I've written something resembling a server watcher for Discord. It's currently not very featureful, but it has at most 500 lines of code. I will be adding more stuff to it though in the meantime before making it public.

If you're interested in access, then get in touch.

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[SnakThree]

Just a thought - Online version tied to main forum account that would keep logs would make people more responsible and accountable.

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[Corile]

Linking things to the forum account is not really possible unless someone codes a usable api for this which I'm not really sure is going to happen.

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Reflections on the Revolution in Gallia
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Log Filter // Post Creator // Manhattan