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Offline Klaw117
07-18-2009, 05:16 PM,
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I think the BHG should've fled for this one. Reavengitair didn't necessarily leave weapons range because I believe he said he thrusted away and then shot missiles, meaning he was still fighting. Also, scanner range is 13k, so I doubt he left scanner range.

I think the BHG should've fled for this one. Reavengitair didn't necessarily leave weapons range because I believe he said he thrusted away and then shot missiles, meaning he was still fighting. Also, scanner range is 13k, so I doubt he left scanner range.

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Offline MarvinCZ
07-18-2009, 05:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-18-2009, 05:33 PM by MarvinCZ.)
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Klaw117 is correct. Distance 5k in a BS - BC engagement? That's still in combat. Maybe *just a bit* beyond the range of cruiser missiles when fired from a standing ship, I can't remember the exact value. It's definitely not "1k - 2k above weapons range".
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Offline Hawkwings
07-18-2009, 06:41 PM,
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Better question: what happened between you and the second BHG ship? That would determine who needed to leave the system.

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Offline Horon
07-18-2009, 06:44 PM,
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Getting sick of hearing about and seeing these people living by the the rules word for word instead of the spirit behind them....Ugh...

EDIT: Why do I feel like I heard that last part somewhere on the forums? Oh well.

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Offline Tenacity
07-18-2009, 07:02 PM,
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You were fine reav.

The only way to fight a battleship in a BC, including the carrier, is to stay at maximum range and fire missiles. If you get even within 3k, the battleship is going to tear you to pieces with superior firepower, armor, and a much better powercore.

He may not like it, but that is a valid tactic for combatting a larger ship. He engaged cruise first, so he lost the fight.

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Offline Hawkwings
07-18-2009, 07:07 PM,
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However, if the order carrier lost or fled from the battle with the second BHG ship, and both BHG ships stayed in-system, then the first one would have been very right to tell the order carrier to leave.

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Offline Magoo!
07-18-2009, 07:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-18-2009, 07:10 PM by Magoo!.)
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Yup. You win, as has been established.

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Offline reavengitair
07-18-2009, 10:51 PM,
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Quote:And please specify in the future if the bounty hunter ships involved were BHG| or generic indies - and of course, leave appropriate comments if necessary in our feedback thread.

Both indies.

To clarify - I never keep the range at 5k - the entire time I was about 3.5-4k away. Still out of range of the BS, but not too far away. Not off scanner range. Then the battleship turns around, cruises, then refuses to leave the system 10mins later.
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Offline JIVA
07-18-2009, 11:08 PM,
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think of it as that... - if you are flying a ship that is fighting another ship that has fled out of effective weaponrange - and you have no chance to catch up to get it into your weaponrange - what will you consider it?

a carrier has no effectiveway to harm a battleship at 5k - the missile do hit. but i highly doubt that you can chew through the shields. - its a bit of a bugger - a situation like a very light fighter. - dodging all the time until all eternity. - never attempting to attack .... is it effectively participating in a combat? or is it just stalling the fight.

if you feel thta the BHG BS , having no chance to fight you ... should have retreated from the system for up to 4 hours. - and you apply this rule to yourself, if you are in the position of the BS next time... you re good to go to assume that the BHGs were wrong.

if you do however think that stalling a combat like that ... forcing a retreat in that way "deserved" a 4 hours lock from a retreat is NOT ok ... then you should not have assumed them fleeing.

would have been best to just agree, that both had retreated from one another - and maybe don t insist on retreats at all ( from both sides ) - insisting on a rule is detrimental ( from both sides ) and harms gameplay - for those involved.

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Offline reavengitair
07-18-2009, 11:15 PM,
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Quote:think of it as that... - if you are flying a ship that is fighting another ship that has fled out of effective weaponrange - and you have no chance to catch up to get it into your weaponrange - what will you consider it?

A good tactic.

Quote:if you feel thta the BHG BS , having no chance to fight you ... should have retreated from the system for up to 4 hours. - and you apply this rule to yourself, if you are in the position of the BS next time... you re good to go to assume that the BHGs were wrong.

Call the escorts. SHOULDN'T THOSE THINGS HAVE ESCORTS AT ALL TIMES?

Quote:if you do however think that stalling a combat like that ... forcing a retreat in that way "deserved" a 4 hours lock from a retreat is NOT ok ... then you should not have assumed them fleeing.

Serves them right for not having escorts, or battleship missiles (which can hit me from a range of 4k, but not 5, but by the time I can get out to 5k, he would have drained my shields)

Quote:a carrier has no effectiveway to harm a battleship at 5k - the missile do hit. but i highly doubt that you can chew through the shields. - its a bit of a bugger - a situation like a very light fighter. - dodging all the time until all eternity. - never attempting to attack .... is it effectively participating in a combat? or is it just stalling the fight.

I can damage their hull, and I've proved that. They just flee soon after.

Quote:would have been best to just agree, that both had retreated from one another - and maybe don t insist on retreats at all ( from both sides ) - insisting on a rule is detrimental ( from both sides ) and harms gameplay - for those involved.

the reason of all this is I don't understand how people can accuse me of fleeing WHEN IM STILL ATTACKING THE PERSON.
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