Few days ago that thing was sitting on top of plannet Malta a threatening it would shoot anyone who came closer than 3k. I saw it blow up 2 outcast Sabres, it also opened fire on me when I came closer than 3k.
2 SOB were rping fixing its programming. When I RPed that I wanted him to take his experiment some place where it wouldnt kill Outcasts, the SOB engaged me because I 'refused their orders'.
Was all fine with me. Some people may scream omg ruleviolation but as long as it was done in RP they can do what ever they want.
Only really sad part was that SOB started accusing me ooc of shieldrunning in system chat, after I took one of them down to 0 bots and half hull, and he stayed in the fight just so he could shield run for 1 hour while his buddy was shooting me. After about 1 hour a RoS joined them against me and I was forced to land. Following that, he pmed me the insults he had been spewing 'in rp' during the fight, while both the RoS and SOB accused me of 'rule violation': docking on Malta instead of dying in the 3vs1 fight (I got OC iff and ID) like they would have liked me to, and allegedly firing on 1 of the sob without engagement notice... while they had both been dancing in front of my view in a provocative manner, had given me an engagement notice, and had started shooting me.
You know... that AI cruiser.. its all good... it shooting other Outcasts with no other reason that they got with in 3k... all good if its done in RP... SOB attacking me... all good if its done in RP.... accusing the adversary of shieldrunning in system chat while the guy that is almost dead stays inthe fight to shieldrun just so the other guy wouldnt have to face me alone... its all good... I never complain ooc when Im outnumbered.
What is really bullcrap is that some people cant end a fight without insults and rule lawyering.
I got no problem with the AI OC dreadnought. Why not? Its only fun.
Ah, at last the flaming starts. I was wondering when people would start complaining.
Well for those of you who know nothing about this, ALL of this actually started more than a year ago with in game RP and evolved from there.
The character was a member of the Harvesters faction which back then was lot more powerful and active than they are now, but that is changing, anyway, all the RP and the ship upgrades are in cooperation with the faction that actulay captured and 'controls' the AI even though even they have trouble with it to this day.
There are a lot of unwritten aspects that are only just now being discovered by folks the more and more they interact with the AI, mostly noteably in the past Cardimine would cause the AI to go berserk and shoot anyone and everything in range, that back then ment if any Cardi was given to it, you might as well run cause it will freak out and shoot.
Cardi now is not as effective, but some one DID give it Liquid Cardi.
Other details and info you all should pay close attention to is ALL found in the Special RP Section.
Also note that the request is being rewritten at this time, some updates to that request have been done but more is still needed to be done before I am truelly happy with the results.
Bottom line is this players : Its a Machine, NOT human and does not have Human understandings or ideas yet.
It's all in RP, if that's too much for you, then don;t RP with it, leave it alone and go your own way.
' Wrote:Ah, at last the flaming starts. I was wondering when people would start complaining.
Well for those of you who know nothing about this, ALL of this actually started more than a year ago with in game RP and evolved from there.
The character was a member of the Harvesters faction which back then was lot more powerful and active than they are now, but that is changing, anyway, all the RP and the ship upgrades are in cooperation with the faction that actulay captured and 'controls' the AI even though even they have trouble with it to this day.
There are a lot of unwritten aspects that are only just now being discovered by folks the more and more they interact with the AI, mostly noteably in the past Cardimine would cause the AI to go berserk and shoot anyone and everything in range, that back then ment if any Cardi was given to it, you might as well run cause it will freak out and shoot.
Cardi now is not as effective, but some one DID give it Liquid Cardi.
Other details and info you all should pay close attention to is ALL found in the Special RP Section.
Also note that the request is being rewritten at this time, some updates to that request have been done but more is still needed to be done before I am truelly happy with the results.
Bottom line is this players : Its a Machine, NOT human and does not have Human understandings or ideas yet.
It's all in RP, if that's too much for you, then don;t RP with it, leave it alone and go your own way.
Hey, Cinder. I remember when you first started out, I was there with Unholy1 while I had my Dgahr ship still named as [Merc]Sindroms. We had some fun RP, yes, tho when you got a dessie I already started to have doubths, now I have them even more. Rping with you is just not as enjoyable as it was before, It was fun when you demanded cardi from blissly unaware smugglers and then went berserk but...
What are you exactly doing now...what else do you have in mind. Apart from it going berserk every time it consumes liquid cardi.
A few days back I tried to RP with you to return the nomads in your hold. Hell, all did, we even had two Keepers. battleships come after you to retreive them, but what you did is dock and log.
Frankly...I dont know where you are going with this, my friend. It was fun for a while, now its just odd.
' Wrote:Well, im commander of battleship Adria and im absolutely against AIs in BS or Dreads. Sry.
AI can have only cruiser or smaller ship class in my opinion.
How about this for an idea in 4.86?
NOONE is allowed anything above gunboat.
Chew on that for awhile.
Meanwhile, my turn to toss in 2 cents. It seem like all the efforts to nerf the capwhoring that has happened in 4.84 is just getting wasted by players that do know how to RP or Rping is not their first priority.
Here's a fresh example:
Last night Harvester_03 is patrolling O-Gamma. An new contact shows up on the radar. Some sort of AI Drone, with NO AI_ID, and a name of AI_Weapons_Holder (or something like that).
03 tries to get closer to get a scan. The other player freaks out and starts threating 03. As soon as the other player retreats & gets to a base, he docks, and switches characters.
Now the new character is corsair ID and of course....sporting a Large corsair ship, Praefect Heavy Cruiser.
New character blah blah threats, then after awhile redocks and switches back.
So-----that little act now has a whole a few of questions I need to find out.
1) Is it required to have an AI-ID to fly any of the AI ships?
2) Is it legal (or fair RP) to switch characters/ships?
3) If a player switches characters for a larger ship, can the second player do the same?
So....before people start griping about large heavy class ships in the hands of AI, take a look at in the mirror and check to see if 'you all humans' are being more responcible.
' Wrote:Hey, Cinder. I remember when you first started out, I was there with Unholy1 while I had my Dgahr ship still named as [Merc]Sindroms. We had some fun RP, yes, tho when you got a dessie I already started to have doubths, now I have them even more. Rping with you is just not as enjoyable as it was before, It was fun when you demanded cardi from blissly unaware smugglers and then went berserk but...
What are you exactly doing now...what else do you have in mind. Apart from it going berserk every time it consumes liquid cardi.
A few days back I tried to RP with you to return the nomads in your hold. Hell, all did, we even had two Keepers. battleships come after you to retreive them, but what you did is dock and log.
Frankly...I dont know where you are going with this, my friend. It was fun for a while, now its just odd.
Actualy, I have an answer for you on some part of that Sin, not all, but some at least.
Something the current Nomad Players may not remember, and what many newer folk do not know is that as a machine, it is unable to 'hear' the Keepers or other Nomads speak to it. Anything they ask for or demand would go completely unheard. I was not interested in being blown away by Two Nomad caps that i would Not shoot back at because of a standing order that was given in the begining by Pinz.
The nomad items I had were not items I aquired on my own, but were those I captured from a Corsair foolish enough to be caught in Alpha. Harvester 24 made an attempt to turn them over to the first SoB player it saw, which was refused, so I held onto them waiting for another different member to show up and turn them over to. Exactly as the harvester was told to do by Pinz.
Now, Obinoxious has posted up something recently that should help a lot of people understand the Machine and how to deal with it, as well as give other Factions the command they needed and have been lacking for a long time.
Last sub note : The Special request had some updates to it, but I am not entirely happy with it. I am working on a fighter, but until the Harvester Faction vets the addition and changes one of the aspects in their Faction Write Up, I can not nor will not use it.
I hope that helps understand some of what was going on.
I'm sure one big question on the minds of myself, a few of the TAZ, and a whole bunch of AFA, KNF, and IG are.. Why do you always whine and try to rule-lawyer so much? Rather leeches the fun.. Then after you fire on a Zoner Carrier, fly to Kyushu and sit there for an hour.. You scream about how you should be left alone because we shouldn't have found you because you were 35K off the plane and that everyone should leave you alone.. Well sorry, if you wanted left alone, why'd you take an AI BS into house space?
Now, I never saw this Harvester 24 before it was a battleship, but I can tell you that what I've seen and what I've heard so far since it has been a battleship has not been flattering. Honestly, when 6 people complain in group chat and Skype about how much complaining you do in a 2-hour period it doesn't make you look good.