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Offline mjolnir
01-27-2010, 10:57 PM,
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Upholder is fine.
1vs1 it's a bit of a nightmare. In big fights it tends to go down rather fast.

Basically identical to Broadsword, Havoc, Civ. bomber or KNF/BD bomber. All are small from the front, but easy to hit from side. I consider them fine "hittable" bombers in the aspect that they die to fighters.

Rheinland bomber is actually quite weak 1vs1, but in big fights it just keeps staying alive. I have made some changes to RH bomber for next update already some 1,5 month ago, but since no update was release yet they aren't in. Generally it should have less armor and bots as well as a bit worse response.

The difference in turning is big:
Upholder has similar turning as Nomad Bomber or BHG bomber.

Thor has similar turning to Falcata and better response even though it's a big powerplant bomber.

Rheinland bomber has almost same turning as Grizzly, Humpback, Mule and rest of the freighters and for example CSV.

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Offline schlurbi
01-27-2010, 11:03 PM,
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' Wrote:Rheinland bomber has almost same turning as Grizzly, Humpback, Mule and rest of the freighters and for example CSV.
Grizzly and Mule turn quite fast and the Humpback like a Brick. How can you compare the Rheinland Bomber with those Ships?

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Offline mjolnir
01-27-2010, 11:12 PM,
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Cause the turning is almost exactly same.
It is actually exactly same for Grizzly, Mule and Humpback.
Response and above all camera position can make any ship "feel" much faster than it actually is.

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Offline Lance_Uppercut
01-27-2010, 11:18 PM,
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It does have a totally badass model, however.

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Offline Benjamin
01-27-2010, 11:34 PM,
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all I know is I'd rather shoot a giant fast ship than some tiny little dot that turns slowly

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Offline Kazinsal
01-27-2010, 11:38 PM,
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Lawndart's power core must go UP.

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Offline Colonel.Tigh
01-28-2010, 12:26 AM,
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The Upholder is too damn sexy, who made the model??, luv him:)
It flys great to, for a bomber, but with its shape, it should have two dartboards pinned on its wings.
And yeay, its the LN bomber, it should be a heavy bomber, they got heavy Rheinland Battleships to shoot, Warren stats would look good on it.
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Offline Kazinsal
01-28-2010, 12:54 AM,
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Unfortunately my LN-ized Fafnir was shot down in flames. THAT would have been a nice ship.

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Offline Akura
01-28-2010, 12:59 AM,
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Agreeing with tesch here.

Something isn't right at all.


Having flown both, it's obvious something is terribly unbalanced.

Though I'm glad Mjolnir has plans....
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Offline Irra
01-28-2010, 01:21 AM,
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"Upholder is fine.
1vs1 it's a bit of a nightmare. In big fights it tends to go down rather fast."

So whats good about him?

Agility is useless when it has so big wings and its just big.. not big big but big for "lighter" bombers.

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