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Offline DAnvilFan
07-03-2010, 01:28 AM,
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A tip:

A military ranking structure is against Zoner lore. I told the same thing to the ZDF. I consider you revise it.
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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-04-2010, 03:15 PM,
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I don't see a reason to change it. It's a good system of chain of command for us. Even if it's against lore. Things are changing. Even if all other faction are not using military ranks, hmm we are Zoners and Zoners are group of individuals (that is also in Zoners lore:]). In one word, we don't see a reason to do the same as others. In that way making another Zoner factions don't have any sense.
Also as you can see in our system rank, we don't have only military ranks.
Ranks for trade fleets are the same as ranks which functions in real merchant navy... It's a some kind of balance...

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Offline Schatten Research Facility
07-04-2010, 03:49 PM,
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I agree with BlueSpawn, the Zoners are an aggregate of various different types of people that all rejected the core systems' way of thinking - this includes militarism. The Zoners embrace individuality, not the conformism of a system of rigid ranks. Besides, the Zoners do not field fleets of military ships, they happen to field ships with other uses that just happened to be armed well, as they live in the dangerous border worlds.

Your idea is good, but military ranks don't fit as the Zoners wouldn't embrace a large vestige of what they had just abandoned.
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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-04-2010, 04:45 PM,
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Hmm sounds sensibly, but to be honest I'm not still convinced to change it. Especially when we have clear allotment on escort fleet and trade fleet.
But ok. This topic was created for hear suggestions and ideas. So please propose me some other system of ranks for escort fleet because, to be honest I don't have sensibly idea what other system of ranks should looks like...

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Offline Schatten Research Facility
07-04-2010, 09:58 PM,
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Perhaps a merchant guild system?

For instance, there is the Guild master, who is at the head of all things
then the different divisions, like Defense Master or Merchant Master or Ambassador/Mediator
then the positions directly under those, like Secondary Defense Master, or Secondary Trade Master
then the positions below those, the varying degrees of Defense and Merchant Journeymen
then the lowest positions, the Defense and Merchant Apprentices
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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-05-2010, 07:56 AM,
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Hmm intresting system, but we are not a guild, we are somekind of corporation. And guild system is even worst then military ranks in confrontation with our modus operandi.
I tell you how I see it from my perspective. Yes, we are Zoners, peoples who leave the house space because we are individuals. But that fact don't need to mean that we should descope everything what people in house space are using. Including military ranks, especially when that system is clear and understandable to everyone.

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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-06-2010, 02:16 PM,
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Added descriptions of ranks in trade fleet. Waiting for comments and suggestions. Thank you:)

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Offline kuth
07-06-2010, 03:00 PM,
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' Wrote:Perhaps a merchant guild system?

For instance, there is the Guild master, who is at the head of all things
then the different divisions, like Defense Master or Merchant Master or Ambassador/Mediator
then the positions directly under those, like Secondary Defense Master, or Secondary Trade Master
then the positions below those, the varying degrees of Defense and Merchant Journeymen
then the lowest positions, the Defense and Merchant Apprentices

This is a great idea for your ranking. Even if you don't want to be a guild type group. If you are a corporation I suggest a corporate type ranking scheme, not a military one.

You don't need to have a ranking system others can understand, only one which your own members can understand. Why do I say that? I say it because you don't need a rank system at all so why do you need one others can understand?

I created the ZDF, I've since handed it off to a friend. Blue suggested this to him also. I support it and if my friend wants to do it, I'll figure out something for them if asked.

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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-06-2010, 03:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-06-2010, 03:15 PM by lukasz_r128a.)
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Ok then we will try to change it for new one, or maybe we will try to adapt guild system.
We devise few others systems, after the BlueSpawn suggestions. I will post them here when we elaborate them. Of course we waiting for propositions, maybe something which you post will be better then our ideas:)
For now thanks to all for sugestions.

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Offline lukasz_r128a
07-08-2010, 07:52 PM,
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Ok, I just post a new ranks for escort wing and I changed a one rank in trade fleet (trade fleet commander to trade fleet leader). I didn't change any other ranks there because I think they are not against Zoner lore. If I'm wrong tell me please:).
Of course I'm waiting for sugestions about new system ranks.

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