' Wrote:Now, be fair, Equi, they're the CIA, they can technically do that, but not in ANY good taste with a bloody sixteen-gun battleship. Go home, kid. If I see you with my NPC pilots, I'll blow the hell out of you, too. Don't play with the AW, HF, or any of those associates.
U can allways attack me but as i posted above i will no longer hold fire and try to works things out. U can expect a full retaliation with all my bloody sixteen guns.
"The greatest warrior is the one that brings peace."
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caretaker what you waiting?that you will in theta close to the corsairs and outcast homeworld and all will accept you ?you invaded gamma and you was destroyed so you are hostile to corsairs,you attack outcasts so you are hostile to outcast you say you have peace with AW,but how?your faction is hostile in AW diplomacy and AW are unfriendly in your faction dipomacy,so how can be peace? and AW and outcast are friendly/allies and when you attack one side of allies the otter side come to help.so you are alone in theta and from all sides are enemies.i think is better for you leave theta and go back to liberty.and you can have 16 or 20 or 50 guns.you are alone.strong of your enemies is in their numbers......
' Wrote:And as to AW's "hostilities", their claim to Zoner "affilliation" is now too flimsy a tissue to wipe their butts with. I suggest they just move in with their Outcast/Dragon concubines, and be done with it.
Now go read the TBH message dump and find out why we're still at war Mal. Now go and keep dreaming and chewing your fantasies. This has nothing to do with you, so stay out of it.
' Wrote:Now go read the TBH message dump and find out why we're still at war Mal. Now go and keep dreaming and chewing your fantasies. This has nothing to do with you, so stay out of it.
All I'm lookin' at is your supposed "Zoner" affilliation.
They're waitin for you in council chambers. Go vote.
' Wrote:LSF placed my BS there to engeage pirats and don't allow them to grow and prosper.
I have LSF, LP and LN maximally friendly.
(OOC)
I'm sorry, I assume you are an independant player roleplaying as the LSF.
What strikes me as odd is that you have placed a Liberty carrier in Omicron Theta. While it is true that on occasion LSF may launch a covert black op, a Liberty Carrier is not subtle stealth infiltration. I recomend you withdraw this ship to Alaska..
We may make strikes into Minor against our Order enemies and even perhaps rarely into Delta... But not then onto unknown and then Gamma and onto Theta! LSF have no concerns or responsbility to police all of Sirus..
Remove your ship to a sensible location. If you wish to RP a LSF stealth pilot at least do it in a suitable ship.
' Wrote:Now go read the TBH message dump and find out why we're still at war Mal. Now go and keep dreaming and chewing your fantasies. This has nothing to do with you, so stay out of it.
Excuse me?
You can't have our bloody tech, and be hostile to us at the same time, and thats a fact.
You can preach all you want Dab, but unfortunately it is the AW who started it, and it is not TBH who will bow to your so-called "peace proposals". You want our tech? You want peace? Fine, there are two things you have to do.
Not assist the Outcasts or their allies (Includes HF, 101st etc) and
Not have one of your soldiers come into Gamma and threaten us by saying "I've been hired by Adm.SirRed, if you fire on him, i'll shoot." in a Kusari Destroyer no less!
Now I doubt you'll ever accept that. Us Corsairs will only have peace if you fulfill our terms, not the other way around.
Actually McNeo, TBH did start the war when they came into Theta to help SCRA in one of their attacks on us, about 20 minutes after announcing on the forums that you'd be helping them.. We were hostile to you, before you were hostile to us.
And we haven't bought a single Taiiden since the war started. Nor have we bought Tizonas or Coladas since it started. I could use the excuse that we are not hostile to all Corsairs, only those that attack us, but I'm not, as I see TBH as the 'leader of the Corsairs.'
And when the new version comes out, I'll be ordering all members to change any bombers they had to Outcast or Havoc bombers.
And we only help our allies, or those who are fighting people who are already our enemies. We help 101st and other Outcasts against BSG because BSG attacked us. We help them against TBH and a few other Corsairs that attacked us (like Benitez) because they shot us. HF is the only exception, but that is because they are our allies. And even then we use the policy that if its simply a lawful vs unlawful fight, we stay out of it. Only when war is officially declared, or someone attacks the HF's home system of Vespucci do we get involved. You have seen this yourself in the sso| matter.
And about the Kusari Destroyer, that was me. We were hired by SirRed to get him out of Gamma to safety (which was Unknown system) because the Corsairs would not let him leave. He was killed twice, as soon as he undocked. He asked us to help him get away that third time. We even told TBH, we were hired to get him out, and if he attacked you first, we wouldn't interfere. I was true to that, when about 3 hours later he went back to Gamma. TBH fought him, he asked me for help and I turned him down as I told him we wouldn't help him get out AGAIN if he goes back.
Don't forget, you refused to sign a peace treaty that was a rumor. Yes we were discussing if we should offer you one, after we offered one to LDDLG. We didn't think you'd agree as your didn't agree to the one we gave you as soon as the SCRA-AW war ended. We were going to try, but you yelled no even at the rumor, and didn't even know what we would say. That is what I'm referring to.
Oh, come on... BSG wouldn't start shooting if not shot upon first. If i remember right - it was a few months ago in alpha. Another drunken colonial raid and naturally, by chance, an AW ship had to be there. Helping the 101st (still no idea how zoners picked a side in the war, whaaaatevah) Seriosly, Dab - I try to avoid contact with AW as much as possible. Not because I'm afraid to get vaped or vape someone with a bigger post count than mine, but because zoners and IMG shouldn't cross swords.
Actually Templar, and this you know full well, the BSG DID shoot first. My internet crashed when BSG was still about 6k away. By the time I restarted the router and logged back on, the other NovaPG (pay attention to who your fighting) were dead and I was being shot by one of the Albatrosses. Before the black screen finished loading. I should even have screenshots. (I'll check when I get home.)
And the reason we were there was because TBH helped SCRA in the war, then refused the first peace treaty we offered. And Benitez and OPG began helping them in battles. We retaliated. We left the BSG alone, even when you were attacking Vespucci, and did so in Gamma until I was shot at. Of course, seeing as how BSG are self-admitting 'Fellow Corsairs' as you said in Gamma, I can see how you would shoot a non-combatant.
And now BSG have attacked Theta 3-4 times, and we even found one of you docking Freeport XV in Omicron-74. I think thats plenty of reason to retaliate. And even chase you to Tau-23, where you ran to after the Caedo told you it would stop you from entering the Omicrons, and you cruised around and entered Alpha. We retaliated in Tau-37, where you then retreated to Tau-23, and we followed.
So if you don't think we should have crossed swords, you shouldn't have shot first.
I can see this argument going round in circles forever?
Who cares who started it?
I was of the opinion that it was because the Hellfire Legion were moving in on Gamma to hit SCRA and Phantoms that TBH got involved, and AW got involved because the HF did, due to their alliance, rightly or wrongly. But, it really doesn't matter.
Everyone wants to be the 'good guys', the 'heroes', even when in-character, these characters regret 'missing slaughter'. We all want to be the heroes but we all know that a large amount of the time, it really depends on where you're standing. You aren't going to convince the other side that they're the bad guys. Unless they're Phantoms.