The reason being that this constitutes a fight engagement with emotion, which is the main reason for a four hour cool off mandatory period they initially instated.
Yes, there is a loop hole, but once they read it, I am sure it will be closed.
i agree with Franz Muller, if he didnt touch yer shields down to 50% or less, and just pirated you, you paid the tax, you can fly away and switch to your bomber and try to blast his ship, their is no engagement, just RP, without the use of weapons, and what about Metagamging? their isnt any metagaming, you interacted with the pirate, knew his last position, you flew to the next homebase, switched to your bomber and followed him again.
' Wrote:i agree with Franz Muller, if he didnt touch yer shields down to 50% or less, and just pirated you, you paid the tax, you can fly away and switch to your bomber and try to blast his ship, their is no engagement, just RP, without the use of weapons, and what about Metagamging? their isnt any metagaming, you interacted with the pirate, knew his last position, you flew to the next homebase, switched to your bomber and followed him again.
No it's not allowed & count as reengaging.
I had see lot of sanction regarding this, as trader always owns a Funboat to take care ze evil pirates at nearby bases......
And ADMINS are always ready to stripeout guns of such funboats.....
' Wrote:i agree with Franz Muller, if he didnt touch yer shields down to 50% or less, and just pirated you, you paid the tax, you can fly away and switch to your bomber and try to blast his ship, their is no engagement, just RP, without the use of weapons, and what about Metagamging? their isnt any metagaming, you interacted with the pirate, knew his last position, you flew to the next homebase, switched to your bomber and followed him again.
But surely that would only hold water if your bomber happened to be stationed at the next base, or you flew to where it was.
If you just docked and logged onto your bomber which was 5 systems away and then proceeded to hunt him down, would that not be metagaming?
' Wrote:No it's not allowed & count as reengaging.
I had see lot of sanction regarding this, as trader always owns a Funboat to take care ze evil pirates at nearby bases......
And ADMINS are always ready to stripeout guns of such funboats.....
sure ive seen the posted sanction about it, and it seems so, that the Trader was blown into dust, so then this count as re-engagement, of course. It is not mentioned in the rules, that a player cant switch to another ship, that better suites his revenge intentions, if he isnt already in a fight, ive seen it so often in Omega 7, i fly around, see a pirate bomber (affiliation dosnt matter to explain, i. e. Hessian), iam on a Wraith, after writing a few lines of rp he disappeared, i go on with my patrol in omega 7, a few minutes later another Hessian with the Same callsign shows up on my scanners, now it is a VHF too, and now he want a short fight, isnt it re-engagement too, if he was first in a player action with me, after a few lines of rp, without fire a shot, he jumped to Omega 11, knowing to switch to his fighter and then come back to punish me? i guess not, because we were not in a fight before, or?
sure you are right, .:Mongoose:., of you must fly first 5 Systems to hunt the pirate, that would be metagaming, because you must have a look at the chatlog to seek him, i guess.
This is now my simple, personal opinion on things - based upon certain experience in dealing with them.
If you have been successfully pirated, regardless of whether the guy shot at you or not - leave him alone for 4 hours. You can continue to trade by going through the system. If you decide to switch into another ship, then it is considered re-engaging even if no shots were fired.
Example: Tom Trader is flying through Omega-3. Carlos Corsair drops the trade lane and tells Tom to pay him 2milordai. No actual shots were fired at Tom by Carlos. Tom complies by paying, and continues on his way. Once Tom gets to Friestadt, he switches to his Eagle that he happened to have sitting there, goes back and tells Carlos that now he will seek his revenge. Tom is re-engaging.
The REASONING behind this is that there was an encounter under a slight variation of 5.6. He fled from the combat by paying the pirate. Now Tom isn't coming back into the system to trade, he's coming back in to fight, and thus rule 5.7 and/or rule 5.8 apply.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.