The ownership of Omega-11

[dodike]

I agree with this person. No corporation owns any systems (Except Oita).

And Okinawa

And Sigmas :cool:

Oh, wait
Do the guilds count here?

[Cris]

Just to clear up a few things here (because daumann licensing is not the discussion at hand)

And taxing your own indies is against faction rules I believe...

We don't tax our indies, actually we protect them sometimes. And we dont ask daumann indies for any sort of license or tax.
Also mining licenses are to keep people away, not offer them a comfortable package. This means miner IDed, IMG IDed, and libertonians who we can shoot in sight anyway. So yes licenses are meant to be overpriced.

Also

So DHC owns it because they are the most ruthless faction in the system.

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

EDIT: Oh looks like vito ninja'd me with a better explanation
EDIT 2: On a second thought, licenses don't look overpriced to me, still they are made to keep people away

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[Battlesnax]

You will be shot on sight IF AND ONLY IF the Daumann ID allows it.

This is helpful, thank you. By reading the licensing thread that was not clear to me.

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[dodike]

It's a mining colony system that Daumann more or less annexed.

From the long post of the wise man I will go for this.

There is also heavy Hessian presence however I doubt the Hessians can make any lawful claims on the system.

[AeternusDoleo]

There is also heavy Hessian presence however I doubt the Hessians can make any lawful claims on the system.

Lawful, no. But militarily: They have a base in the system, and the jumphole to their guard system is very close to one of the high-yield mining zones. The Rotfront has been making a killing off of that field I believe, using Hessian heges.

We do not want Omega 11 to become the DHC guard system

Smart move. Mining fields would be severely nerfed if it'd become your home system. And I think the Freital inhabitants wouldn't be too happy;)

CrisFg: I threw a ball up in Communication to see if the Rheinland government will actually let you claim a system as yours. We'll see what happens.

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[SpaceTime]

In order to examine if DHC owns Omega-11, we should firstly check how is Rheinland economy.

For example, in Liberty and Bretonia there isn't any corporation which owns a system because of their economic system.

In Kusari, Kishiro and GMG are extremely large corporations which make them able to influence the Kusarian government and also have the means to own a system.
(despite GMG's independency)


In Rheinland, Daumann is also a very large corporation and even though it influences Rheinland government very much, I believe that Rheinland's centered and concentrated economic system make Omega-11 and Omega-7 pretty much as sovereign systems under the government's control. That doesn't deny the huge influence that Kruger and Daumann have in both systems.


Edit: And this is also reflected in their IDs, as they can hunt IMG vessels there...

[AeternusDoleo]

Edit: And this is also reflected in their IDs, as they can hunt IMG vessels there...

True. But wether that's a very good idea is another matter. The last time we had corporations pirating corporations going on in the Omegas, the offending players had to be booted out of IMG. It was considered a gameplay issue to launch from a base in the same system where you're pirating in as I recall (IMG indy group launching direct attacks from Freistadt, sometimes with Hessian support. They are now the Rotfront [RF], still having kept their ships).
Mining corporations simply do not lend themselves well to becoming pirates themselves.

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[Linkus]

Oh lulz.
Omega-11 as the Daumann guard system?
It's a contested system with many factions involved in it.
Highly improbable that Daumann would ever really want to expend the energy required to expel the unwanted elements in the system.

Look at Omega-15 before 11.
15 is pretty much ignored but has a Military presence already.

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[Sturmwind]

Just as OP, I would like to clarify:

This thread is not about the DHC getting their own (guard) system or to argue if the space is iRP contested territory or not.

This is about Rheinland's official recognition of Omega-11; if it's state owned or privately-owned.

No, Rheinland will not give DHC an entire system out of the blue, that is why I need to know if the system has already been theirs or not (hence the admin opinion being desired).

That will not change their taxing practices though and this thread is not meant to do that, it's simply an in-RP practice.

[mwerte]

The Rotfront has been making a killing off of that field I believe, using Hessian heges.

When they don't get killed by Daumann hedges. :cool:

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