@Jaec: Freelancers are simple citizens going back and forth to work. So are bowex or interspace or dse employees. What you want can easily be achieved with the existing mechanics. If you work on a base or planet it is most likely that you are considered a part of the faction that runs it. A stock broker based on Manhattan could be any Liberty corporation or a freelancer flying a corporation IFF. A member of the civillian staff on a millitary base is a freelancer with that millitary's IFF. A mechanic could fly a miner with the generic miner id and a junker or dse IFF. The current system is only really limited by your imagination, there is no reason to change it.
' Wrote:So basicly because of few trolls who want to abuse the Civillian ID you want to devide it into 5 others just to eliminate those few?[...]
It is not just about trolling. The trolling was more another hook on this topic..
I believe by creating more IDs we also give more diversity to the game. While it might be relatively easy to roleplay a Kusarian or a Rheinlander with their native language, it might be offending for a Rheinland civilian greeting others in front of Manhattan with "Guten Tag" or a Kusarian civilian for using japanese in Bretonia.
There is also no way to distinguish a Bretonian from a Libertonian without getting bored by their life story. You basically have to introduce yourself to every one appearing over and over.
The proper citizen ID will give others a quick way to slightly adjust their roleplay for example by disapproving someones presence or by welcoming someone warmly. You could even decide to stop talking about sensitive topics, as you could have the feeling the citizen of the other house could be employed by the hostile government to spy.
Lawful forces of their respective house could even decide which civilian should be handled with "priority" and so on. The new ways of interacting are almost endless on a roleplaying server.
The Civilian ID on its current state instead is more a: "nah I am not going to interact with this player/ship as long as I am not forced to".
I think you have a mistaken belief about what a civillian is. A civillian is an average joe, traditionally a non-combatant. Half the ID's in the game are civillian and easily represent nationalities. BMM pilots are Bretonian civillians and DSE pilots are Libertonian civillians. For those who don't want to be part of a faction but want to represent a nationality there is always the Freelancer ID with a house IFF. The system is fine as it is and this will only create work that will eat time better spent on other issues that are not.
BMM and DSE are corporation IDs and by getting them you are bound to behaving to their lore, diplomacity and specific rules of conduct.
A generic citizen is not bound to a specific faction just like a freelancer or a mercenary. But he is aligned with the respective house. Of course there should be no requirements to get a citizen id.
If you are a Freelancer IDed ship with DSE IFF you are telling others that you are a freelancer who is closely affiliated with DSE but not a member of them. That doesn't make you a Libertonian. DSE has bases all over sirius house space, they employ not only Libertonians.
You are a citizen, right? You have a job, right? You work for some company, either large or small. If you work for MCDonalds then you have a MCDonalds ID. If you work for a mom and pop greasy spoon then you are a freelancer. Some corporations are national, some are multi-national, and some are simply regional, just like every single civillian ID in the game. If you work for a greasy spoon in the U.S.A then you are a freelancer with lawful U.S.A IFF. Or, in disco terms, you are a freelancer flashing a lawful liberty IFF such as the LSF. It doesn't mean you are part of the LSF, only that you are friendly with them and look to them for protection. As a citizen of liberty would.
We have planets inhabited by billions of humans and yet we only have house IDs of large space operating corporations. There is no MacDonalds ID or "Liberty IFF". LSF IFF is also everything but civilian.
I don't want to introduce hundreds of other IDs, just Citizen IDs for each house, as there are some people, who would like to RP being a citizen of a house without representing a big corporation or security agency.
Of course there are only ID's for a few large corporations. We don't have enough players to RP out every possible corporation that could exist, and even if we did, how many corporations do you know about in foreign countries? Only a handful. Same here, only a handful are large enough to be noticed on a galactic scale. The generic Id's were developed to handle the rest, just as I mentioned in previous posts.
As for and IFF. It doesn't make you a part of the faction. That is the function of the ID. A freelancer with a LSF IFF isn't part of the LSF. He won't be called on to do the job of the LSF. He doesn't necesarily work for the LSF. All it does is associate him with the Lawful Libertonians. All an IFF does is Identify Friend or Foe. If you are a law abiding citizan of a country then you are a friend of the countries authorities.
What it sounds like to me is that you are looking for a generic house IFF, not an ID.
' Wrote:What it sounds like to me is that you are looking for a generic house IFF, not an ID.
A generic house IFF would require to gather "generic" house rep. Sounds good at first glance, but just getting an citizen ID without requirements is easier and you can still flash a specific IFF - if you want to.
As I said, I am unhappy with the current implementation and usage of the generic civilian ID.