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Note about pulse guns in 4.86 vs 4.85
Offline mjolnir
12-30-2011, 10:42 PM,
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' Wrote:The only problem is Outcasts don't fight KNF, GMG, LN, etc while the Corsairs spend most of their time under Hessian, RM, BH or Bretonian fire.

Outcast don't fight LN? It seems like they fight LN more than Corsairs at times. The don't fight GMG?

... and Corsairs spend most of their time under RM fire?

Seems like you are turning everything into corsair disadvantage.

Btw. BH will get upgraded reaver which is best against positrons and they do fight both factions.

Also if you really think it's a huge problem you can use civilian lasers.


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Anyway if it really becomes a problem it can easily get changed. Some plasma guns might need an upgrade with one of their main advantages gone.

We'll see how it works after a while.




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Offline Warhalk
12-30-2011, 10:48 PM,
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' Wrote:The only problem is Outcasts don't fight KNF, GMG, LN, etc while the Corsairs spend most of their time under Hessian, RM, BH or Bretonian fire.

Option a) looks like a better choice because this change affects the Corsairs more than any other faction. Gallic civilian shield busters are pulse, but they have the lasers to compensate against positron shields. Same for the Council and Coalition with their tachyon hull busters. Again, from the looks of it all factions had their gun types balanced between the 3 shield types and the only ones who will suffer from this change will be the Corsairs. Either way, something needs to be done since 20% makes a big difference in any fight

Hmm i just took on 4 Outcasts in NY with my LN char. Must have just been my imagination since LN does not fight them.:mellow:
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Offline Razr
12-30-2011, 11:01 PM,
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Vito it's cool bud, I totally agree with you. Martin is indeed a failed balance lead. Just a second ago he totally burned a legit request.

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Offline globalplayer-svk
12-30-2011, 11:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-30-2011, 11:03 PM by globalplayer-svk.)
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ok, so related to corsairs side, major changes for them in past were
1:visible tizona/colada
2: civilian shield busters that fit perfect speed of oc guns
3:slowest ships in sector (and few more hp of armor are nothing...)

and finally now
4: reduced damage of pulse guns on some shield types.

can someone who know, answer me, what major changes was maked to closest enemies of corsairs?
i mean, outcasts,hessians,rheinlanders...

not to start flame, i just will know it...

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NixOlympica
12-30-2011, 11:03 PM,
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' Wrote:If you're going to argue about mod balance, at least get your information correct. KNF, GMG, and LN are some of the Outcast's main enemies outside of the Omicrons, and they fight them pretty regularly.

Dab maybe you should play in Kusari more often, what was the last time you saw Outcast fighting GMG...
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Offline Jihadjoe
12-30-2011, 11:06 PM,
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' Wrote:The only problem is Outcasts don't fight <snip> LN

LOL!

You sure about that Vito?

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Offline Razr
12-30-2011, 11:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-30-2011, 11:12 PM by Razr.)
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' Wrote:ok, so related to corsairs side, major changes for them in past were
1:visible tizona/colada
2: civilian shield busters that fit perfect speed of oc guns
3:slowest ships in sector (and few more hp of armor are nothing...)

and finally now
4: reduced damage of pulse guns on some shield types.

can someone who know, answer me, what major changes was maked to closest enemies of corsairs?
i mean, outcasts,hessians,rheinlanders...

not to start flame, i just will know it...

Well there's already a nerf coming to Krakens and Sabres - 1

Rolled back Hornviper buff for RM - 2

Blodo rolled back Natter buff for Hessians - 3

Wraith gets slight reduction in turning -4

I probably missed a few others.
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Offline globalplayer-svk
12-30-2011, 11:17 PM,
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' Wrote:Well there's already a nerf coming to Krakens and Sabres - 1

Rolled back Hornviper buff for RM - 2

Blodo rolled back Natter buff for Hessians - 3

Wraith gets slight reduction in turning -4

I probably missed a few others.


thanks for answers:)

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Offline Hone
12-30-2011, 11:21 PM,
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How is this a nerf just for corsairs? Because people can use positron shields more now? What about Mollys? Our weapons are inneffective against positrons too. But apparently its just the poor little corsairs with thier uber anti shield unique guns, and Osirises that are being nerfed?

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Offline globalplayer-svk
12-30-2011, 11:28 PM,
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' Wrote:How is this a nerf just for corsairs? Because people can use positron shields more now? What about Mollys? Our weapons are inneffective against positrons too. But apparently its just the poor little corsairs with thier uber anti shield unique guns, and Osirises that are being nerfed?


just a little question when you are comparing poor mollies and poor corsairs

how many times in a day you have attack in your home system by enemies using shields that have 20 percent advantage about your weapons from now?...

and how many enemies have mollies around?
just a little tip, around gamma are:
hessians
outcasts
nomads
GMG (in sigmas which is next to theta)
Bounty hunters (they have base in backdoor to gamma)

did i forgot someone?

i will not say that corsairs are better as mollies or something like that, but before you will scream that corsairs this and corsairs that, compare them to faction that you are using ....

because last time when i saw molly system invaded it was when corsairs attacked it....

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