The Kusari State Police

[Kusari State Police]

Whoa... I don't think you need to copy my walls of text from the "Internal Affairs" thread. Just the opening post to the "Information and Feedback" thread ought to be enough. Maybe a few other things, too; take a look at the approved creation requests from other factions here to see how they did it. But at the very least, remove the Internal Affairs part.

In any case, you guys have certainly stepped up the activity in ways that I never could have dreamed of when I was in charge. Kudos for that, and good luck on the officialness.

Thanks Zuke, the guys have worked hard and we're in space daily.

Just asking where that piece of information is taken from. Looked through the rumors and other infocards but couldn't find it. I'd appreciate if you could show me where it is, since this caught me quite curious.

EDIT: Also, I hint that you read the codex again. Especially parts 6.1 and 6.2.

The information was here before I took over, and has been since previous officialdom. I see no reason to change it, as it's a much needed ingame RP balance.

as for your hint at me reading the section, I understand why you ask me that, I throw back at you the words 'Colonial Remnant merger' and 5-3

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[West]

It's the small things like these that need to get worked out early. In my opinion, the current KSP needs to do a bit of cleanup with its lore before going forward. It's working off of a patchwork of new lore, outdated lore, and other lore which was "in the process" of being updated, but never was (my fault on that one). Copy-pasting from what was left behind by the old factions isn't going to get you very far.

ignore this ye?

anyway, KSP and KPT have no power over naval forces, we have our own small Tokkeitai divison that can deal with "treason" stuff and all asociated crap. We haven't RPed it quite hard.. since there was no reason... and since it always was only me who worked against someone:D, but if needed we will start do Tokkeitai RP too.

That's why... as Zuke already stated.. probably you should rewrite your "lore" abit... to fit current situation... not as it was 3-4 years ago.

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[Pancakes]

Thanks Zuke, the guys have worked hard and we're in space daily.
The information was here before I took over, and has been since previous officialdom. I see no reason to change it, as it's a much needed ingame RP balance.

as for your hint at me reading the section, I understand why you ask me that, I throw back at you the words 'Colonial Remnant merger' and 5-3

I assume you did not understand what I wrote about with the hint, anyway, it's not what I came to do about.

KSP job is to stop criminals, not to intervene in military actions, I don't think that part is proper in there. Same as a police officer would go around military bases and personal to inspect them - that's the government job, not the police. (Nor it is the military job to inspect the police, again, the government's job).

Also, the kempeitai are an intelligence branch, I suggest you the least edit them out since they are not even part of KSP, if you want to change KSP lore that's one thing (which again, as I said, is not even making sense inRP), change other factions lore is a quite different matter.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Drakor]

KSP job is to stop criminals, not to intervene in military actions, I don't think that part is proper in there. Same as a police officer would go around military bases and personal to inspect them - that's the government job, not the police.

No, a Police officer would not go on a military base, and inspect them. However, If a police officer saw a military person, in uniform and in a public place, clearly breaking the law, he would still intervene. Just 'cause he's military doesn't make him exempt from the law. It might make them out of the scope of a single officer dealing with, or depending on the equipment, even multiple officers, but it doesn't take them out of the police's jurisdiction.

Exactly the same in this situation, or are you saying that we, as in the Kusari State Police, should not execute our duties on the spot when we've had no prior warnings to indicate that an action, which could be determined as unlawful when the whole thing isn't looked at, is going to be taking place in Kusari Space. If you're saying that we should instead ignore any illegal, or immoral actions from the Kusari Naval Forces, simply because they're the Kusari Naval Forces, if that's the statement, then my palm and my face will soon be having a meeting to discuss your reasoning.

If that's the statement, it's not only illogical, it's also just plain wrong. If a Navy officer shot a legal transport, should we then outlaw the guy whom was perfectly fine, just because he was shot? On the other end, if a Police officer did the same, should the Navy then outlaw the transport, just because the Police were involved? I think not, in both cases... But my common sense could be lacking. You tell me.

[Pancakes]

No, a Police officer would not go on a military base, and inspect them. However, If a police officer saw a military person, in uniform and in a public place, clearly breaking the law, he would still intervene. Just 'cause he's military doesn't make him exempt from the law. It might make them out of the scope of a single officer dealing with, or depending on the equipment, even multiple officers, but it doesn't take them out of the police's jurisdiction.

Exactly the same in this situation, or are you saying that we, as in the Kusari State Police, should not execute our duties on the spot when we've had no prior warnings to indicate that an action, which could be determined as unlawful when the whole thing isn't looked at, is going to be taking place in Kusari Space. If you're saying that we should instead ignore any illegal, or immoral actions from the Kusari Naval Forces, simply because they're the Kusari Naval Forces, if that's the statement, then my palm and my face will soon be having a meeting to discuss your reasoning.

If that's the statement, it's not only illogical, it's also just plain wrong. If a Navy officer shot a legal transport, should we then outlaw the guy whom was perfectly fine, just because he was shot? On the other end, if a Police officer did the same, should the Navy then outlaw the transport, just because the Police were involved? I think not, in both cases... But my common sense could be lacking. You tell me.

You sir, need to read what you wrote in the OP then. Since enforcing the laws is one matter, and what you wrote there isn't that at all. KSP should enforce the law on everyone should they break it, but having an official duty of inspecting the Navy regularly is plain wrong - at least that's what you wrote.

If what you meant in it, is what you've written in here, you can drop it all together - anyone in Kusari shouldn't be breaking the laws.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Drakor]

I didn't write the OP. I'm a member of the faction, but I didn't write the OP.

Also,

Both groups oversee KNF actions and keep the samurai from stepping out of line.

Nowhere is an inspection of KNF forces mentioned. Basically, that piece, From what I understand of it, just covers us also enforcing the law on the KNF.

That's my understanding of it, at any rate. I could talk with Mr. Dr. Prof. Ms. Chokan about changing the wording, but I think it should stay in there in some form, just to make it clear.

[Fellow Hoodlum]

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[Tachyon]

Just wanted to say, that I appreciate the faction's activity in Kusari, you guys let the place look a bit ... alive.

Btw, using TS makes you 13% cooler.

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[TheOrangeButterfly]

Yeah, won't restate what was stated before about the write-up. But I will talk about the in-game activity! KSP has good activity, but the problem the State Police have are overwhelming their opponents. I don't mean 2v1 or 3v1. I mean like 2 destroyers, 3 bombers, 2 wyrms against a gunboat and a katana (For those of you that remember yesterdays fight.) And today, while I was on my AFA I had 2 wyrms and a chimaera on my bomber. Now, i'm not normally one to cry Gank as i've had it happen to me all the time so it's np... just... faction image is everything. If you want to be known as the guys that will log 3 caps and a swarm of ships for one enemy, then that's alright, but make it clear that's the image you're broadcasting right now.

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[DanDan]

Yeah, won't restate what was stated before about the write-up. But I will talk about the in-game activity! KSP has good activity, but the problem the State Police have are overwhelming their opponents. I don't mean 2v1 or 3v1. I mean like 2 destroyers, 3 bombers, 2 wyrms against a gunboat and a katana (For those of you that remember yesterdays fight.) And today, while I was on my AFA I had 2 wyrms and a chimaera on my bomber. Now, i'm not normally one to cry Gank as i've had it happen to me all the time so it's np... just... faction image is everything. If you want to be known as the guys that will log 3 caps and a swarm of ships for one enemy, then that's alright, but make it clear that's the image you're broadcasting right now.

Iie, lies...it was a chimmei engaging you, me (wyrm) disrupting you and the Lane which you tried to use to escape, and another chimmei just watching...

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