im also pretty sure that the 5 unit limit for cardamine in your possession in Bretonia is still in place, this is for outcasts whom need to to live but not for smuggling purposes.
' Wrote:The rephack should lower it to the point where you can't dock, not to hostile. Probably whoever was doing the rephacks when this was implemented was unaware of the lore and diplomacy around it.
every BAF station offers missions against Outcasts, and vice versa. Outcast NPCs pirate Bretonian ships all day. They hate each other fully, in lore.
' Wrote:every BAF station offers missions against Outcasts, and vice versa. Outcast NPCs pirate Bretonian ships all day. They hate each other fully, in lore.
Same as OC got missions against BAF on cape, if im not mistaking. Their relations is like: The enemy of my enemy wont be shoted first....
' Wrote:Same as OC got missions against BAF on cape, if im not mistaking.
That's what he meant by vice versa.
' Wrote:They hate each other fully, in lore.
Or the game hasn't been updated to reflect the new lore diplomacy...
With the neutral stance of our nations, letting them travel through (with enough Cardamine to survive) unabated - tends to suggest they don't hate each other as much as you do.
' Wrote:With the neutral stance of our nations, letting them travel through (with enough Cardamine to survive) unabated - tends to suggest they don't hate each other as much as you do.
It's just avoiding a fight with them, at the same time you were fighting Kusari, Gallia and Corsairs.
Is there a treaty between the houses defining the relationship? no? Lore stands
Quote:Same as OC got missions against BAF on cape, if im not mistaking. Their relations is like: The enemy of my enemy wont be shoted first....
No missions against BAF in cape wrath...
And lore...lore is defined by players. And when you last time saw player from BAF|, BPA or Bowex shooting OC and when you last time saw 101st, XTF or 13th shooting Brets?
Plus NPCs case...NPCs are not playing...it's just addition to game. Sometimes nice and desirable, sometimes irritating.
Oh and one more thing - "enemy of my enemy is my friend" politic is good start to build relations Relations which are already builded ingame. Fact that no one never wrote tons of useless crap on forum doesn't meant that it's not exist. So fix that.
Quote:If Bret and OC want an alliance they should push to make one. What's stopping you?
That alliance already exist in my opinion based on ingame relations between Brets and OC.
Like I said in previous post. Fact that someone never made "wall of text" about it on forum doesn't mean that we are hostile.
Every single OC know rules of conduct in Bret. Go there but don't make mess there and follow Bret laws. Even fact that every OC can have 5 units of cardamine in Bretonia confirm that alliance.
Quote:Cardamine
Cardamine Shipments above five units will be escorted either to New London, for seizure and distribution to licensed pharmacies, or escorted out of Bretonia and into the Taus. Offenders will be fined 3 million credits.
Here, directly from Bret laws. No one will tell me that it's not wrote with a view on OC.
So the thing which is mystery for me is "why the hell we can't have neutral rep between us".
Edit: To be more funny. According to this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...VOaEM1bnc#gid=2
BMM and Bowex so factions which should be more afraid of OCs have rephack neutral without docking rights. Sorry, but no logic in that for me.