Quote:I was wondering how an AI not from gammu would fit if it wanted to join the consensus... Imagine an independent house-made AI that wanted to leave house space and unite with his distant brothers.........
Perfectly possible. AI already contains one allegedly human-made AI sentient, it just might take a little bit more Rp during the recruitment process. We do already have Exo-Conesnsian Ai's in our ranks.
Although the Consensus is heavily about protecting and ensuring the survival of the Gammuians the distinction isn't necessarily exclusive. All AI's (regardless of origin) are welcomed by our Rp criterions. Hypothetically a human who really wanted to Rp to become a cyborg could also work as well, since one of the Consensus's many Rp and OoRp founding groups was the cyborg group Haimen. So yes, by all means it'd be fine.
Quote:I've had some decent encounters with your group although few as they have been. Although I will say your diplomacy is pretty bare. Are we to assume everyone not mentioned is Neutral? I know you've traded in Rheinland a few times and not a single faction from there makes the list.
Good question Gentlefood and I'm glad somebody asked it. Whilst it is true the Consensus does run into a lot of hostile encounters in the houses (I can't really talk about Rheinland because I haven't been there recently), it's something expected and goes with the territory. InRp it stands to reason that house militaries, police forces and house companies would be slightly alarmed at a little-known group of aliens discreetly slipping into their territories and purchasing resources, and yes sometimes those police/military/Companies will use threatening language (see any Comn channel transmission made in and around the GMG war). However, this often doesn't result in gunfire.
Supposedly an implacable people, driven to survivalism rather than reactionism, the Consensus generally will turn a blind eye to the odd toaster insult or any other provocatory transmission directed at their convoys; ensuring the resources survive and return to Omicron Kappa safely is paramount, and comes above anything other than a direct violation of that goal (say, somebody cruise disrupts us or demands a cargo drop or just plain shoots).
Yes there is a general perception of animosity from Rheinland, but the Consensus still aims to retain amicable enough relations with the house to trade safely within its borders. Avoiding resource starvation comes over any other mistrust.
KNF however is slated as unfriendly, because the KNF have gone as far as actively firing on Consensians (in the GMG war) and essentially calling us "enemies of humanity" etc.. , but doesn't currently have any running campaign against us (since we have no installations in the vicinity of which KNF is aware). GMG is still at war for slightly more profound reasons.
Mostly the reasons why our house relations are nearly entirely slated as neutral is because the Consensus really doesn't know much (at this present time) about the nature of the primary houses, and Liberty house it hasn't even entered. Our bare diplomacy list is in the state which it is because it only currently pertains to factions which the Consensus comes into monthly (or more regular) contact with. Most others are currently unknowns. Hopefully with the passage of time it should become progressively fuller.
Your stated objective is rather.. strange, considering the fact that you are a jump-hole away from us, and unlike my brother I don't get pissed so fast but I have my breaking point. Good rp so far, just drop the "war" thing before its too late because otherwise we'll see the green fellas jumping in. Good luck.
Well you know what's the problem.
1. Jumphole installations on both JH in Omicron 74 that are easily can be set to fire everything.
2. The constant rule-breaking of the 8k Zone around Planet Gammu.
Really, I expected more than that, no one has shot or "violatioed" the NFZ, even though as Ive said its should be a "coldwar" not a "real war" because Kappa is mostly corsair zoner. Ugh, you should thank me for that, I've been working hard on trying to stop the others of seiging kappa, but as I said that won't last forever. Congrats on your new station, and I would becareful if I were you, because we have a new target we might pick if you don't come to your senses. cheers
As you can see you've offered the answers by yourself again and act still warmongering and aggressive. claiming for a coldwar and threatening our new base is really a good way for a solution. maybe you can destroy it again with ooRP chars, mix ooRP with inRP and try to say it was phoenix like you guys did last time, for get us engaging against phoenix. was a nice try anyway.
It was never us and far from it I know it was a bunch of corsairs, because i was the one helping you guys when they blew it up, no thanks there eh?. And aside from the obvbious, Our IDS dont allow to attack one another, so far you have fired on us, some admin teams already know about this from what I can gather, but atleast we don't get the blame. In anyways, drop your little "war" because as long as it stays there you will get retribution, and thats not a good thing at this time. Good luck with your application.
You brought yourselves into this in RP. Stop complaining on something you can do to fix it. Go RP about it and fix it inRP, no need for OORP bickering/hate
I wish Concensus good luck, would be nice to see an actuall official AI group
Tell I remember when we started this I remember we both saying to each other; "hey, we both have good InRp reasons for this" and kinda respecting what the other factions were doing.
Anyway, I agree with Hell Hunter. An argument like this isn't really reflective of faction politics or faction policy InRp wise. Well maybe perhaps it is, because it showcases the Consensus's current Rp niche; it's fear of resource starvation. Currently AI's struggling to keep the Omicron 74 system open (in Rp outlook) from an agency it sees as aggressive and violent (in Rp), and it's doing rather well at it. As soon as this war stops having any purpose inRp then we're happy to drop it. Tell, you can always shoot us a peace request of in the com channel or ingame if you don't feel this showcases ZA very well, but we're considering this entire thing from an Rp perspective purely and some of our older ZA battles are actually a permanent fixture in the lore.
I'm happy to talk to you about it via PM or Skype, whichever's easier for you. Here isn't really a good place though.
(06-20-2013, 12:28 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: It was never us and far from it I know it was a bunch of corsairs, because i was the one helping you guys when they blew it up, no thanks there eh?. And aside from the obvbious, Our IDS dont allow to attack one another, so far you have fired on us, some admin teams already know about this from what I can gather, but atleast we don't get the blame. In anyways, drop your little "war" because as long as it stays there you will get retribution, and thats not a good thing at this time. Good luck with your application.
My last post for this. Stop mixing this ooRP with RP !!! that is metagaming.
And for hell please stop lying. We aren't that dumb.
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