well for starters, update your roster, cause half em peoeple on disco anymore, and some of them left.
and as for sovereignty over all them places, nah sorry you dont, you hold sovereignty in 85, the rest of the places is manditory. military dont hold sovereignty in systems the people do..... i dont think you quite get the meaning of power over the "military" that means military not the people nor territory.
edit: just so i can clear that 2nd point up a bit, you claim the power over the military, the military does not own brittain the goverment does and now since we have already confirmed that there aint no maltese "goverment" but a buncha dons, that would make them the sovereign role in all the systems NOT the military.... in a nut shell 101st are the militarys number one not the outcasts as a whole thus you do not hold any such sovereign power in all those systems
1. A brawl in the Sigmas sounds cool and I'm all for it. just worried about the lag from all the clouds and stuff. Around Hawaii is pretty clear though. Maybe GMG involvement? Swooping in to drive the victors off?
2. you have Liberty Rouges listed 2x, once under Allied and once under Friendly. which is it?
3. Keepers shouldn't really be neutral. Keepers can and do want to rid Sirius of humans, Outcasts are just further down on the list.
4. Still not a big fan of the Bretonian love triangle but meh.
5. HG isn't listed. SA should probably be LN. and "Orbital Power Gnomes [OPG]" ???
6. Xenos can, will and do shoot at Outcasts that are in Liberty and should be listed under Hostile as they want to keep Liberty seperate and we want to control Liberty.
7. Why is [IND] allowed access to the most secure guard system in Sirius?
8. Just because a unit is the "elite" in an army/navy/military/whatever doesn't mean they control the rest of the military. I.E. The Army Rangers are -the- premire fighting force of the United States Army. Yet whatever general that commands them doesn't have power over the other parts of the Army unless the Pentagon gives him that power.
Roster updated, was in the process of doing it already.
As for sovereignty, the 101st is the resident police/military Outcast people and, as the Council of Dons only has territorial holdings on actual planets, in direct control of Outcast space. We act as the police force within said space, and since it is the Outcast nation's property as a whole we have direct control over it. It doesn't honestly matter what you call it, we control that region of space.
1.) No objections; wrong thread for it, anyways.
2.) Fixed.
3.) This is debatable (besides which, the RoS came up with this one first). The Nomads were worshiped as guardians well before the first Nomad invastion; indeed, knowledge of this invasion would probably be kept a secret anyways, so what the Nomads are wouldn't really be clearly defined anyways. We'd still regard them as holy spirits, hence they stay neutral.
4.) No issue.
5.) HG listed, SA changed to LN. This hasn't been updated since the last spring cleaning. Orbital Power Gnomes was a joke left over from the XA chat. I like easter eggs.
6.) Xenos are under hostile, don't know where that came from...
7.) The IND have relatives within the 101st, past and present, and indeed, IND funds were frequently embezzled for use by the Outcast military.
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no sorry, you really dont control it ......... like i said the only place you control is 85 thats it im sorry, just because you RP it does not make it true, im sorry but if i wanted to change my factions story to being a almighty ruler i could and then what i could just say everyone needs to fall under my command? no i dont think so, i wont even do that when we do get a system.
no im sorry but i do think the 101st RP as you put it now is a very cheap way at gaining power, one that i find to be very completely out of place and wrong. if you wanna RP being the military power so be it BUT you will not take it to the point you try and gain control over everything.
3. But they aren't NEUTRAL. Neutral implies consent from both sides. Do you have the Keepers word that they won't EVER attack the 101st?
7a. Well my Bretonian Gunboat Captain has relatives that are Liberty Rouges (some cousins from a few marriges ago) so he can go use LR guns and sit near Buffalo right? /sarcasm
7b. Outcasts do not have access to their own guard system (under your rules) so why should some foreign corporation captain be allowed in?
' Wrote:You can't defend it against Hogosha shrooms *points at avatar*
Anyway, your job is pretty boring, I think you need to expand. No one attacks Malta anymore, not even CR.
Corsairs do it like once a month, that's all.
Haven't been in Alpha lately huh? usually an attack every other day it seems
' Wrote:I'd like to make a request of both the RoS and the 10st:
Instead of coming directly to Crete to raid the Corsairs, as I have seen in the past, why not contact the Corsairs and engage in a brawl in the Sigmas? It would be a nice change to the rather consistent raids on Crete, and the Sigmas are supposedly a large warzone, but it never gets much action aside from the Diamond-Niobium runners...
Thanks.
That could be fun :D
as my group is a militia, we wont get in between 101st & RoS struggle for power, we support em both & both have excellent RP
& both have GREATLY helped us with our goals & RP
No complaints from us :cool:
The 101st leads and controls the Outcast military-the Outcast military is responsible for keeping the peace in Outcast space and organizing the war against the Corsairs. Thus, while yes, they don't have sovereign control of Malta, if you do something they have the authority to lay on the hurt. You'll note that every single house military, (KNF, LN, QCRF and RM) has the exact same precedent.
' Wrote:3. But they aren't NEUTRAL. Neutral implies consent from both sides. Do you have the Keepers word that they won't EVER attack the 101st?
Yes, actually. Keepers have plans for the Outcasts, and don't shoot unless you provoke them. 101st don't attack Nomads and get other Outcasts to do the same, in return Keepers don't attack Outcasts.
' Wrote:7a. Well my Bretonian Gunboat Captain has relatives that are Liberty Rouges (some cousins from a few marriges ago) so he can go use LR guns and sit near Buffalo right? /sarcasm
7b. Outcasts do not have access to their own guard system (under your rules) so why should some foreign corporation captain be allowed in?
I don't blame you for thinking this way, the relationship wasn't made clear- the IND fund the Outcasts and specifically the 101st, have done so for years, and still can't enter without good reason and escort- they have no more rights than other Outcasts do (because yes, that would be silly).
well change the words on the post, because you dont HOLD sovereignty, there is a big BIG difference my friend between uphold and hold, by saying you "HOLD" sovereignty you claim that you are the supreme command and that everyone should fall under your command, no you see noone needs to fall under your command other than in 85, thus you do not HOLD sovereignty you UPHOLD just as modern police only get involved and use theyre authority if someone breaks the law, that is what you should be doing. so like i said change the wording because you are far from the outcast leaders and you never will be, noone will be.
now i see many 101st pulling theyre weight a bit to far for my liking even to the point of telling people they aint allowed to smuggle cardamine because the BLS manopolise it, this is unacceptable. Then to be told that im a traitor for going against theyre will? when infact the real traitor would be the one STOPPING the cardamine trade. (true story ask jura II)
Now honestly i have the utmost respect for 101st, but recently the whole we are the number 1 military everyone fall under our command thing has been taken to far, yes you uphold the law in outcast space it does not make you the law plain and simple.
EDIT: thus you dont hold sovereignty, you have the right to uphold the law, like i said there is a big difference between upholding the law and holding sovereignty. a very big difference
Well, it seems you two are gonna be going at it for quite a while.
One side saying I do, the other saying you dont.
Unfortunately, the 101st is in much the same situation as TBH is with the OPG. So I suggest you carve up territory between you and dish it out that way. TBH secures the Corsair side of the Omicrons while OPG secure the Corsair side of the Omegas. Im sure you two could figure out where you want to put each others sovereignty. Though, Corsair boarders are clearcut, Outcast ones aren't so much.
But you cant just keep saying "Yes!" "No!" "Yes!" "No!" "Yes!" "No!" "Yes!" "No!" all the time. Figure out a solution or one of you is gonna fall. I have a feeling I know who that is, as i've seen this situation myself before with other contestants vieing for power.
ah well id like to clear this one up before we get the wrong idea, im not implying RoS/BLS/SOB/101st should all get territory under theyre sovereign rule, quite the opposite im implying noone should.
its all well and good acting as the law, but when it comes to the point people start saying they control the territory and everyone in there should fall under theyre command, thats when a line should be drawn.
a rather thick line, one that looks strangely like a rather large brick wall, one 200 feet tall and unpassable.
EDIT: ok im done here anyway ive said my bit, its upto the faction to decide if they wanna listen to the babblings of a eccentric man