If multifactioning was illegal... what would you do?

[Ascendancy]

If it was illegal, I'd just probably ditch all the other factions I belong to and focus on Black Squadron since I'm the lead anyway. (Plus, I spend most of my time on those characters, anyway.)

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[old.steel]

Throw the stones at me.

The discussuon was about support and dedication/loyality in the first spot.
It is ridicoulus that a offical faction with more than 20 members have only the same few guys around online while some stick to thier 'other' chars.
Playing in different offical factions is ok as long as you got the time AND the ability to play the different roles.

Instead of accepting some critisim and stay on skype, this stupid thread was created trying to put me and my fellow faction player under pressure.

Anyone still wanna throw some stones?

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[Raekur]

The problem with multifactioning is not being part of multiple factions.
Its when a player can not keep information separate between them.
When a players pirate character get jumped and then the pirate uses one of his other characters to get revenge. Or as someone pointed out in another thread, when a horde of pirates attack manhatten and several of the lawfuls there log out of their lawful and log in with their unlawful to join the mob.
That type of behavior should be seen as justification for ejecting the person out of the lawful faction.

My main issue is that of the players that I have encountered, only about 15% know how to play multiple roles properly. The remaining 85% multi-faction/clan for various personal reasons or personal gain and not for furthering the faction they joined. So yes, it does wind up being a question of loyalty. Being part of only 1 faction means no one has any reason to question your loyalties.

[Dieter Schprokets]

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Seen other servers with that rule. You end up with nights where its all lawfuls, with nothing to do.

Boo-ring..

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[sovereign]

The problem with multifactioning is not being part of multiple factions.
Its when a player can not keep information separate between them.
When a players pirate character get jumped and then the pirate uses one of his other characters to get revenge. Or as someone pointed out in another thread, when a horde of pirates attack manhatten and several of the lawfuls there log out of their lawful and log in with their unlawful to join the mob.
That type of behavior should be seen as justification for ejecting the person out of the lawful faction.

My main issue is that of the players that I have encountered, only about 15% know how to play multiple roles properly. The remaining 85% multi-faction/clan for various personal reasons or personal gain and not for furthering the faction they joined. So yes, it does wind up being a question of loyalty. Being part of only 1 faction means no one has any reason to question your loyalties.

While this is true (moreso in Liberty and Sigma-13 than anywhere else, but jerks will always be jerks no matter what you do) sometimes having only one loyalty will cloud your judgment like there's no tomorrow. Find any thread involving Outcast vs Corsair and you'll see what I mean. The guys with chars in both groups are a lot more moderate and constructive than the other guys, with a few exceptions.

Not one to brag or anything, but Rheinland is a living example of the opposite... if there are a pile of unlawfuls, some will switch to lawfuls to balance numbers and vice versa. Fights are a lot more fun when its 6v6 and not 3v9.

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[Akumabito]

It's not that people mess up their roles, it's that they jump around the server to wherever the action is at that particular moment which leaves certain factions undeveloped, and leads to "piling on" fights where suddenly it's you against 5.

I am interested in the people who say they would leave the server. Where would you go since every other RP server that I know of restricts you to a single faction (which I think is the right thing to do)?

[Cawdor]

Throw the stones at me.

The discussuon was about support and dedication/loyality in the first spot.
It is ridicoulus that a offical faction with more than 20 members have only the same few guys around online while some stick to thier 'other' chars.
Playing in different offical factions is ok as long as you got the time AND the ability to play the different roles.

Instead of accepting some critisim and stay on skype, this stupid thread was created trying to put me and my fellow faction player under pressure.

Anyone still wanna throw some stones?

See, there is a simple problem with prohibiting multifactioning.

Every Faction in discovery has its rules and limits that are set by vanilla or igiss. To maintain a decent RP (if you REALLY want to RP that faction) you have to obey those rules and limits.
But if you are bound to one faction only, it turns out to become a litte too limited. The players will force more freedoms on the NPC faction than they should to have as much fun as possible.

Example CR: they are using a loyalty code, "mulitfactioning" members cant advance into high ranks.
But as a result, CR ain't IMG in any way.
I had a bold talk with yngren once as I was yelling about CRs diplomacy which was totally unIMGish at this point: war with UoG (mollies) almost hostile to bretonia, allied to corsairs.
only thing they share with IMG are the NPCs basically.
Yngren did help my IMG faction alot back then by correcting many of those things thus having a positive influence on our reputation in bretonia, but still his answer was
"well if you are happy with mining rocks and running from outcasts all the time than its your thing, but for us this ain't enough."
HELL I'M NOT! thats why I join other factions and RP them properly as well.
Ther should not be an IMG army waltzing into Alpha, there should not be xenos trading and there shouldn't be bounty hunters doing the Sirius police and everything else but acting like the bounty hunters GUILD (hello, DW)
In short: Multifactioning maintains an appropriate RP for each faction.
If I want to trade or mine, I log on my IMG chars, If I want to kill corsairs or pirate, I go on my Red Hessian, If I want to struggle against a bigger force, I go on my Volksfront chars. If I want to do police work, I go on my BAF char. etc.
But if you are forced into only one faction, you are limited. limitation means loss of fun. the result is either you looking for another game or the faction becoming an absurd uber-power like CR.

And I can tell ya, indy-dome cant compensate it. Its always boring to not be able to rely on others and visa versa, even my few indy chars stick to the residual factions and i hang out in their skype chats, to know when they pull things off.
It would be too damn boring the other way >_<

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[Koolmo]

I would honestly keep playing the factions I play until someone sanctioned me for it. Then I would do it again. Restriction of factions is silly, the only reasonable restriction is no leadership of more than one faction.

However, faction-spamming is silly, I agree. I like to play on my SCRA even when it's quiet, but I also occasionally enjoy wandering around as TAZ and spreading the word of Eris. It's the people who jump to the action I dislike.

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[old.steel]

@Gotteshand: you are talking to the wrong guy

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[Ophiuchi]

Well, we've had our little poll, and our little stone-throwing exercise.

I was the other party who was involved. Take your shots right here if you wish.

When there are two BAF camping above NT, and a KNF member is too "busy" trading, then I am tempted to question that person's loyalty and dedication to the KNF. Sorry, but I am.

Likewise, the argument that you can amicably belong to two hostile and competitive factions and maintain balance, without being tempted to "share" intel with the competing faction is just too far a stretch, considering human nature.

Badmouthing the CR because they require a certain level of loyalty, or Darkwing because they demand it, doesn't really prove your point either, Blackie; as I consider both to have earned respect and succsess here on Disco.

Stone away.

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