If the Outcasts steamroll Yanagi, there goes the resupply depot for both the Corsairs and the Outcasts in the Sigmas. Remember, its the only pirate-friendly base in the sigma systems.
Secondly, if you steamroll Yanagi, im pretty sure most of the Junkers would place an embargo on your product. You seem to think that the sword beats the pen, when its really the other way around.
For instance, Russia's stock markets fell by a large amount after it invaded Georgia.
There are always consequences, financial, industrial or military. No nation so dependant on one source of income would throw it away like that over a dispute to do with a single station. The Corsairs wouldn't either. If it were the other way around, we wouldn't be in the best position to take any action at all. Both the Corsairs and the Outcasts are very dependant on the Junkers shipping their produce across all corners of the sector. Neither would want to throw it away over a single delegate. Well, at least I wouldn't. I think the Corsair Elders think the same way too. Minus Gentle of course, hes a nutcase.
Politics can be easily ignored because of the mechanics of Freelancer. There are no consequences for your actions. But imagine if Trafalgar and Rochester suddenly shut their doors to Cardimine trade. Sure, the Junkers would lose say 30% of their profit. Outcasts would suffer a lot more, however. But, I suspect that its usually economic action that follows military agressiveness. The same thing would happen if the Corsairs took military action against the Junkers of Yanagi, only the other way around.
You dont have to look very far to see examples of this.
Try to think about this as a politician rather than a player in a fictional game. This is roleplay, after all.
Also, adressing one of Dabs particular points out of the many he made of which I cared not to read (as there were so many), the British defence minister is a Scot, as is the Prime minister, decendants of the area that is trying to devolve governmental power from the houses of politics in London, thereby making it a different country.
Would that not mean that an outsider would be having a bearing (even overall control in our case) on our way of life and our country?
It wasnt so long ago, perhaps eight hundred years or so, that the Scottish and the British were at each others throats. Thats about the time Sirius had been colonised, but those factions still havent managed to coexist peacefully together. Isn't it about time they started to catch up?
As a note, I now have no bearing on what the Corsair council does. I simply advise when I feel I need to input something, which is very rarely nowadays.
well put it this way also, junkers dont do most of the outcasts smuggeling, infact on the contrary.... i think it is very little.... the only place the junkers help the outcasts trade cardi is new york, which im sure can be rectified in a very easy deal with the rogues.... no i think you might be putting to much onto the junkers here conner mate, as for trifalgar? why would we care.... bretonia has legalised cardi, we dont need to use the junkers there.... we take it straight to the planet.
and sigma's mecht only place in sigma's.... not like we have much use for the sigma's anyway, infact we shouldnt even be pirating there, or even operating in that area.
Kusari.... we got the GC, Rheinland.... we got ourselves and our own dodgy dealings, nah the junkers are extremely easy to get rid of mate, like i said only NY is where the oc use the junkers. To my knowledge anyway.
and like i said with NY easy to get around, nah the fact is.... the junkers would not do this, they risk their whole faction doing a move like this even if it is only 1 deligate, it is a deligate we would not want doing the business...... hell its a corsair..... who's to say he aint gonna pull the outcasts dont dock on yanagi thing anyway? either way we potentially lose a outpost... its either the outpost gone fo rus, or gone for both what would you choose?
EDIT: oh yes, im not suggesting if this goes through im gonna attack right out, im just giving you a scenario here, what WOULD happen if the line was crossed, i wont say anything else in this matter, im sure it will be sorted in a clean manner, aslong as we dont see any faviroutism and more switching to the osiris to kill things.
Bretonia has legalised Synth in amounts for personal use and Cardi for personal use only. Not for drug trafficking purposes.
Trafalgar and Rochester are as I understand it, outposts where your NPCs stop for rests on their way.
If Yanagi disappeared and Bornholm closed the gates, the route through Rheinland would close. Kusari is already closed due to the Hogosha, and Bretonia would close, or become harder to pass through. Not to mention, theres a war going on through your smuggling route down in the Taus.
The GC are users, not distributers. If they were the latter, they'd be in it for money, not as a drug to get high on.
And on your last point, I would choose to open talks with them, establish the reason why they did it and push for an arbiter of your own to govern Bornholm, Trafalgar or Rochester, take your pick.
@ McNeo: Um, Scottish and English were at each other's throats. That's British and British at each other. Since the Scots landed on Britain from Ireland, they've been British too.
The islands are British. The islands incorporate Scotland and always have. Just because there wasn't a political union, it doesn't mean that the Scots weren't British...
' Wrote:Politics can be easily ignored [because of the mechanics of Freelancer].
Try to think about this as a politician [rather than a player in a fictional game].
It wasn't so long ago, perhaps eight hundred years or so, that the Scottish and the British were at each others throats. That's about the time Sirius has been colonized, but those factions still haven't managed to coexist peacefully together. Isn't it about time they started to catch up?
Actually, you have brought out very well what my views are here senor.
I am a political idealist and truly a "politician". This isn't ego or competition militarily between empires--its a political matter. The unconsidered rapid use of military threats simply complicated matters and realistically, this is a matter very easily settled by diplomacy between business partners.
Great insight there senor--my hat would be off to you if my hairstyle allowed me to wear one.