House Law enforcement

[nOmnomnOm]

Does this mean a base in peuto Rico can have contraband on it now without fines being sent since it is an independent system now???

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[Blodo]

Yes, because it doesn't fall under house sovereignty. Laws would only apply within house space within a court anyway.

[Blodo]

Nono! This is the workaround:

Imagine... hypothetical... an IMG wants to force a Kruger miner to fill him up for dangerously low price.

Who would you log now to help that poor extorted miner?

> in reality: a Kruger and pounce on the attacker
> in Disco: an RM/RFP indie (so you can pew + have rp consequences)

Obvious advantage, isn't it?

Anyway, won't cause a lot of problems (at least not for me), it was just a funny observation seeing the question asked that bluntly by the exactly right person

Jack

They can log after the fact, but they need to be present for the actual act of extortion for them to be able to get involved. If they log after demand has been stated, you can just bluff and say "hello officer I am just looking at this nice kruger ship" and he can say whatever he wants to the law, the law can't act upon it because they didn't witness the attempted piracy. So all you need to do is cease and desist when law shows up, then resume when law leaves. Big deal.

[Jack_Henderson]

They can log after the fact, but they need to be present for the actual act of extortion for them to be able to get involved. If they log after demand has been stated, you can just bluff and say "hello officer I am just looking at this nice kruger ship" and he can say whatever he wants to the law, the law can't act upon it because they didn't witness the attempted piracy. So all you need to do is cease and desist when law shows up, then resume when law leaves. Big deal.

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[nOmnomnOm]

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* nOmnomnOm squeels

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[Kuduka]

This is great, I love it!

Time to go make some ships for corporate piracy in the Omegas.

Can''t wait to start pewing and priating on my lawful chars

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[Thunderer]

Seems good to me. Thank you.

One thing isn't clear to me, though. Do POBs in House controlled independent systems still pay taxes and can be besieged if they refuse to?

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[SpaceTime]

They can log after the fact, but they need to be present for the actual act of extortion for them to be able to get involved. If they log after demand has been stated, you can just bluff and say "hello officer I am just looking at this nice kruger ship" and he can say whatever he wants to the law, the law can't act upon it because they didn't witness the attempted piracy. So all you need to do is cease and desist when law shows up, then resume when law leaves. Big deal.

If only it were that easy. Indie officer with cloak reaches 9k distance and decloaks and then takes screens of the shields/hull of the pirated vessel. Then the offending vessel cannot give any more excuses.

[Laura C.]

Does this mean a base in peuto Rico can have contraband on it now without fines being sent since it is an independent system now???

Yes, because it doesn't fall under house sovereignty. Laws would only apply within house space within a court anyway.

It is quite interesting situation because Puerto Rico is Outer Regional Space. Thus

- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players and factions found breaking House Laws within Outer Regional Space, only if they are personally there to witness to the legal infraction while uncloaked and equipped with a House Military, Police, or Intelligence faction ID.
- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may not enforce roleplay consequences upon non-hostile POBs, breaking House Laws or not, within Outer Regional Space.

So basically POBs are safe from law enfocers and consequencies of having contraband. However smugglers are not and if law enforcers will go to Puerto Rico, he can still enforce Liberty laws there and fine them for smuggling and demand the contraband.

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They can log after the fact, but they need to be present for the actual act of extortion for them to be able to get involved. If they log after demand has been stated, you can just bluff and say "hello officer I am just looking at this nice kruger ship" and he can say whatever he wants to the law, the law can't act upon it because they didn't witness the attempted piracy. So all you need to do is cease and desist when law shows up, then resume when law leaves. Big deal.

If only it were that easy. Indie officer with cloak reaches 9k distance and decloaks and then takes screens of the shields/hull of the pirated vessel. Then the offending vessel cannot give any more excuses.

It´s not that easy. You need more than far away made pic of harmed vessel. You need to screenshot talking while uncloaked to have evidence about law infractions. Also, your shield will be down, showing you just uncloaked (and if HUD is edited out, I guess such evidence won´t count). What you screened without talking is fight of two sides which can claim "he started it!" but you don´t have any valid evidence about who really did it.

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On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.

[Sabru]

They can log after the fact, but they need to be present for the actual act of extortion for them to be able to get involved. If they log after demand has been stated, you can just bluff and say "hello officer I am just looking at this nice kruger ship" and he can say whatever he wants to the law, the law can't act upon it because they didn't witness the attempted piracy. So all you need to do is cease and desist when law shows up, then resume when law leaves. Big deal.

If only it were that easy. Indie officer with cloak reaches 9k distance and decloaks and then takes screens of the shields/hull of the pirated vessel. Then the offending vessel cannot give any more excuses.

using a cloak to get close enough to uncloak and quickly take screens seems like an attempt to see how far you could push the new/altered rules without breaking them.

seems like it would be a **** move in my opinion.

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