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Offline Zelot
03-16-2010, 06:27 PM,
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' Wrote:Well, as I said, Fascism like Nazi/Falangism/Integralism. They are branchoffs are they not?



Nazi = A ideological group that used fascist tactics to achieve it's ideological goals

Falangism = A group of Spanish nationalists who used Fascism to achieve its nationalist goals.

Integralism = The idea that a nation is a unit, and things from outside the unit are a threat. It used fascist tactics to achieve it's ideological goals.



Fascism = A term to describe a general type of group leadership that advocates the use of repression and violence to achieve the ideological goals of the group.



Do you see the difference? The ones on top? Ideological. The one on the bottom, about how to reach your ideological goals.



And yes, I agree whole heartedly with Mr. Lens above.


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Offline Exile
03-16-2010, 06:27 PM,
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Didn't he just say that it isn't going to be a nazi faction, but a fascist one?

Nazi = Fascist
Fascist =/= Nazi

Quote:What your "fascist faction" will be is actually a faction that will RP nazism.
Who told you this? That hot vampire chick from twilight that can see into the future? (Girlfriend made me watch it, I know I know.)

This is a roleplaying server. Sindy wants to make a new form of roleplay, or at least redo it. Let him. If you fear it'l be a "safe haven" then we should probably ban all factions. Hell, I am apparently a French Fascist if we should follow your thoughts. And some one who abducts people.


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Giorgio1
03-16-2010, 06:33 PM,
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Quote:Who told you this?

Female intuition.
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Offline Zelot
03-16-2010, 06:33 PM,
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For all of you who think we dont already have factions that are fascist, your wrong. Look at the Farmers Alliance, look at the Kusari government, look at the Rhineland government. Fascism is NOT NOT NOT ideology.



Basically what sindy here is saying is that he is thinking about a faction that fascist. Great, now what would the ideology be? Because as I said, fascism is just about the way a group gets to it's ideological goal.






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Offline Dusty Lens
03-16-2010, 06:35 PM,
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Offline Exile
03-16-2010, 06:35 PM,
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' Wrote:Female intuition.
Well, I'm afraid to inform you that it sort of fails then. Sorry. Corner's over there.

He just wants to make a faction, let him. If it fails you can go 'told you'.


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Giorgio1
03-16-2010, 06:37 PM,
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Fascism actually is an ideology, created by Musolini, who was Hitler'S role model.

But since then it has become a word to describe the strategies you described, as some of them were also used by nazis, franco, and stalin.
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Offline Zelot
03-16-2010, 06:40 PM,
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' Wrote:Fascism actually is an ideology, created by Musolini, who was Hitler'S role model.

But since then it has become a word to describe the strategies you described, as some of them were also used by nazis, franco, and stalin.



Fair point.


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Offline beunt
03-16-2010, 06:44 PM,
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Just to give away with the nazis, what would be the ideology of such faction ? Religion ? A new Sparta ? A lobotomy-based government with absolute mind control ? You need to pin a tag on your faction, and help people to understand what you are talking about.

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Offline Death.RunningVerminator
03-16-2010, 06:44 PM,
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' Wrote:Fascism actually is an ideology, created by Musolini, who was Hitler'S role model.

But since then it has become a word to describe the strategies you described, as some of them were also used by nazis, franco, and stalin.


' Wrote:Fair point.

That makes no sense. How can you say fair point when Giorgio is saying you're wrong?

' Wrote:Just to give away with the nazis, what would be the ideology of such faction ? Religion ? A new Sparta ? A lobotomy-based government with absolute mind control ? You need to pin a tag on your faction and help people to understand what you are talking about.

Sindroms was just throwing the idea out there, not making a faction.
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