What if everyone actually paid the pirates?

[SeaFalcon]

worse, because the authorities wouldn't care, since no one would die.
worse, because shooting traders is fun.
worse, because ...

just worse imo.

[Silver.2]

I honestly dont know if it would get better or worse.

However...as to whether or not traders should pay pirates...

Guys, at least listen to the offer. The worst that happens is you RP, dont like the offer, and try to silently run away like you were planning to do from the beginning. Except, without the silent part.

Also, why is it that people seem less inclined to pay when you ask for less? When I used to ask for 2mil apiece, More than half of the traders I found would stop and RP, and mostly pay.

Now that I ask for only a few hundred thousand, or a few hundred units of cargo, most people wont say anything other than "screw you".

[Soul Reaper]

This. If I'm pirating, i pirate for the rp. Most I'll ask for is 2 mil. And ya, if someone is charging more than 5 mil, they're no pirate. They just give us real pirates a bad name.

Wrong.

No such thing as pirating for RP. (in this case RP meaning little cash)

people asking for 5 million ? is wrong ? YOU are wrong my friend. It's all based on the character, what kind of character, a greedy one, or one that pirates just for the sake of making peoples lives' harder than they already are, there are many reasons and variants to pirating. And do not mix up RPing with talking.

Talking =/= RPing

Robbing people based on your character = RPing

There's no damn limit to how much you ask. It's all based on your character and whatever you're pirating. For example, I've had many pirate characters, some asked for a donut or something, some asked for your cargo and some credits, one of them for most of your cargo. Then I had this total jerk who'd rob you 3 times in 2-3 different systems.

As for the topic,

If they all paid, pirates would get confident and ask for more and more until the traders go mad and stop paying all together, in the end we'd have more pirates than before, and when the traders stop paying, pirates will be hunting for blue messages since the player put in all that time ot make the pirate character, he'd want something out of it.

So yes, it'd get worse, it's more fun this way when you don't know what the trader/miner is gonna do, it's all actually based on what the pirate is doing or what he's robbing the trader of.

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[AshHill07]

Why don't I pay pirates?
They usually ask for about 2 mil.

Why is this a problem when i get 10 mil a run?
Because I offloaded the money before I restarted the run ...

I do 3 runs between 3 points. I offload all my money to my main account when I hit point 1 again. And between points 1 - 2 and 2 - 3 I have about 500k on board plus cargo. Hell the 1 - 2 run is simply to get enough to buy the 2 - 3 cargo. The time I'm most likely to be stopped by pirates is on the first 2 runs, when I have 500k max on me, with the 3 - 1 run being a much higher risk from RM than Pirates.

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[Stefz]

I think it will get worse, pirates will become confident and demand more money.
Also, there are some pirates that just look for blue messages, and i met one yesterday.
He said 1mil or die and started to shoot at me before i even managed to answer, so i turned around and killed him.;)
So not everyone can play pirate. If you are looking for blue messages get some terrorist ID (Xeno, Gaian...) and start to pew pew "good" guys.

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[ruihu908]

Yes, The form of RP must be kept, and sure, demanding upon the role of your character is cool.

But asking for more than 10 million on a 2.7K transport? or All of someone's ore just because you're too lazy to do it yerself? No, not cool. That's Meta-gaming.

If I can demand as much as my role allows, I'll say my role is a psychopath that when he sees money, he wants it, he'd kill for it. Then I'll demand any trader I see 30 Million. No money? PEWPEW.

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[Hielor]

There's no damn limit to how much you ask. It's all based on your character and whatever you're pirating. For example, I've had many pirate characters, some asked for a donut or something, some asked for your cargo and some credits, one of them for most of your cargo. Then I had this total jerk who'd rob you 3 times in 2-3 different systems.

Actually, fun fact.

There is precedent for admins to sanction people for demanding too much.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55699 :

19 million is an unreasonable demand for a pirate, and so is the rest of your behaviour.

Unfortunately, 20million seems to be fine nowadays.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48002 :

60 million credits.

60 million.

That's not piracy. Thats bizzaro terrorism. You're banned until you explain to me exactly why it is that you felt demanding 60 million credits from someone and then blowing them up was in any way something that was an exceptionally fair minded thing to do.

Of course, I wasn't able to find anyone getting sanctioned for demanding too much anytime recently, but there is definitely precedent.

[Veygaar]

or All of someone's ore just because you're too lazy to do it yerself? No, not cool. That's Meta-gaming.

Mete-gaming: Using OORP knowledge to take advantage of things ingame.

So... first off its not Mete-gaming.

Second: Rorry cargo pirates when he gets the chance. Claiming that I personally am to lazy to mine because ONE of my characters pirates miners Ore is incorrect though. 'He' does it because he finds it profits very well, and has found a clever way of making money.

Losing your cargo from time to time is part of the game. It makes sense in Role Play as well. Not every miner is going to get to his destination. Some take precautions like having scouts to go ahead of them, or use untraveled routes.

I do this when I mine/trade, but as someone once said "Even I get boarded sometimes" and lose my cargo. What do I do about it? Well I don't go saying its unfair because thats what the pirate should have done inRP. I make note of how I got caught, work to evade this the next time, and continue on my way. This shows growth in the traders/miner's RP as a person, they learn how to avoid pirates who take their cargo, not just keep going on the same path to be caught again and again and again.

Now the same goes for the Pirates RP as well, he notices he's missing more and more traders cause their getting smart, so he steps up his game as well, getting friends to help and figuring out how the trader is beating him.

If both sides play their part accordingly, then both will grow in interaction and RP. Some times the Pirate wins, sometimes the Trader wins.

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[CzeReptile]

When it comes to pirates, we all have our opinions right? I've never been good at piracty myself though I admit its fun and thrilling as hell.

But the question here is this. If every trader that got stopped paid up, would piracy get better or worse? As in more frequent or less frequent.

Pirates need money as do traders right? To feed their other characters and what not and not to mention, have fun!

Pirates need money because they are bored with trading sinc it is much easier to sit and yell preset messages then fly through all the systems yourself.

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[RmJ]

If I knew I'd wouldn't get zapped for it, I'd pirate everything you got. Everything and your ship. Really don't care about what the RP should be because the server rules and the Game Engine dictates what IS the RPing elements. Not the Rping elements dictating the Game Engine.


Thus, I don't want anyone to ever pay me while pirating. Go run instead and see how far it takes ya cause either way you're going to die if you cross me. Because that's how I roll.

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