Which BS is OP? Which nerfed? Post your opinions

[belarusich]

Person who taught me strafe forgot them now

[Prysin]

Lib dread's nice until you have any sort of ship with a CD on its ass disrupting it. Then your heavy BS rolls in and melts it like butter in a microwave.

If it's a situation with CDs, than the only way to get close to LibDread is
1) Have a scout to locate it.
2) uncloak behind it.


And if LiDread pilot is smart, he'll be doing the same - having a scout searching for that heavy BS of yours, or disrupting your scout.

For BS "power" you must consider the three primary BS battle tactics,
Brawling (pure battle of firepower and armor), kiting (outmaneuvering while firing from a distance) and the "new" tactic, stealth killing (using cloaks to get up close and wipe out the opponent)

Which leaves us with 2 tactics, since what you described as stealth killing is absolutely same as brawling or kiting. It just depends on which distance you'll uncloak.

Since well, you won't be uncloaking at point blank against RMBS when flying some light BS, right?

for Brawling, the Legate wins hands down. No other battleship can hope to match it in a close quarter slugfest.

Huh?


P.S. Calling Valor one of the most useless BS'es around =\
Granted, it got horrible light slot accuracy, low number of light turrets for it's size and huge weak spots, but it's rather excellent at fighting against kiters.

the reason why i call valor useless is because its horrible turning speed, size, lack of decent anti cap and anti snub capabilities (yes, if you sit infront of it, you will get hurt. If you actually just charge it past the FW mount, you will win, every time)

The fact that the legate is one of the more agile caps around, given its bulk and power it is insanely OP anti-cap wise.

Stealth killing isn't all about power. Sure power helps, but say a RMBS got quite a few blindspots were you got little heavy fire coverage. Even with an light bs, you would be able to sneak into those spots and have the superiority in destructive power. However, only a few ships possess the cargo capacity to mount a cloak, CAU 8 and full armament while retaining a good deal of cloaking duration. Thus the light bs would be useless for such an tactic.

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[belarusich]

the reason why i call valor useless is because its horrible turning speed, size, lack of decent anti cap and anti snub capabilities (yes, if you sit infront of it, you will get hurt. If you actually just charge it past the FW mount, you will win, every time)

The fact that the legate is one of the more agile caps around, given its bulk and power it is insanely OP anti-cap wise.

Stealth killing isn't all about power. Sure power helps, but say a RMBS got quite a few blindspots were you got little heavy fire coverage. Even with an light bs, you would be able to sneak into those spots and have the superiority in destructive power. However, only a few ships possess the cargo capacity to mount a cloak, CAU 8 and full armament while retaining a good deal of cloaking duration. Thus the light bs would be useless for such an tactic.

You forgot redemtion, which you think better than Valor

[Prysin]

Agree, but on head on clash the nephilim beats legate.

that boils down to loadout and pilots.

CAU 8 legate v CAU 8 Nephilim at brawling distance (0-200m) with equal pilots = dead neph.

If you start the engagement 3k out, with the neph spamming mortars at a legate pilot with bad dodging skills, you will have a fair chance to win...

BS agility is highly underestimated, i dare say the legate pilot knew how to fully utilize his/her ship's potential.

The legate and Sarissa is quite unique in a sense that they can be flown by anyone, but if allowed to utilize their maximum potential, they are simply too agile and too powerful to be easy handled by anyone.

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[belarusich]

And I still have no answer, why redemption>valor

[Prysin]

Redemption has better anti snub coverage, and is slightly better in the sense that is is more all-round better.

Fighting the valor head on is like fighting a sledgehammer on steroids. But once you get past/above/below it, it is relatively easy to steamroll it.

The Redemption, while suffering size vs power issues is more well balanced as an all-round ship. It is decently powerful in brawling, has good kiting capabilities with 2 dedicated heavy slots pointing backwards (sounds stupid, but dual mortar back there is simply brilliant), it is also better looking, not to mention, more often then not, heavily underestimated.

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[Lonely_Ghost]

Indeed, Redemption can hold better against attacks from a side, while Valor starting to be quet easy, if you aren't infront of it.
However, they still do their job well, when skills are combined with tactics.

Liberty Drd considered OP due to shape. It's VERY agile! He can dodge cruiser fire laughing. Jorm is nice too, having those two cerbs on it's back- right what do you need for TSing from someone large as Legate or RM BS. And FWG for base assault

Worst BS- Osiris indeed sux. Only one question-why?

[belarusich]

Sorry, but redemption is only copy of valor with 2 more heavy slots, and 2 less primaries(and these slots dont fire back), have less armoe, quite faster, same guns point and it is good aganist snubs when valor awful? And yes, kiting in this BS...

[Lunaphase]

Gotta say nephelim is one of the worst. The ship size really hurts it in combination with the absolutly useless arcs. More blindspots than hellen keller.

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[Prysin]

Worst BS- Osiris indeed sux. Only one question-why?

i wouldnt say Ossie sucks, but it was made considerably harder to use. Demanding a high skill and much more dependent on use of proper tactics.

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