Imperium Mars Fillius (Mars Fillii) Description

[Ponge]

"The Imperium tolerates the following factions and individuals: Junkers".

I think they should be moved to Friendlies, rather just being tolerated as you use their base as HQ (it would make more sense inRP, too). And did you ask the official faction about using one of their bases as your own HQ?

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[Zephyranthes]

"The Imperium tolerates the following factions and individuals: Junkers".

I think they should be moved to Friendlies, rather just being tolerated as you use their base as HQ (it would make more sense inRP, too). And did you ask the official faction about using one of their bases as your own HQ?

As for the reputation question, tolerance can be more or less equivalent to having a certain degree of respect, viewing them more as civil barbarians, but not entirely equal to Fillii citizens. In other words, they get along.

To the second, Invergordon isn't so much an HQ as it is a resupply base. From the outside, it just looks like some Freelancers basing out of there. Eventually as operations expand, there would be a request to have some faculties on the station for only Fillii use, or some other equivalent.

[cerious]

So Junkers are Civil Barbarians and below the status of your people, but you wish to use the Junker base? Diplomacy is not your thing I guess.
Stated in BIG letters is that Invergordon is your base of operation, yet I have seen no docking/use agreement by the Junkers. Are you taking over the base by force?
As for looking like any base out there maybe you should open your eyes a bit more,
it is a Junker shipyard Guarded by moored Junker ships.
Possibly you should select the Freelancer base in Coronado or some other Freelancer base.

[Arioch]

So Junkers are Civil Barbarians and below the status of your people, but you wish to use the Junker base? Diplomacy is not your thing I guess.
Stated in BIG letters is that Invergordon is your base of operation, yet I have seen no docking/use agreement by the Junkers. Are you taking over the base by force?
As for looking like any base out there maybe you should open your eyes a bit more,
it is a Junker shipyard Guarded by moored Junker ships.
Possibly you should select the Freelancer base in Coronado or some other Freelancer base.

Keep in mind, that as of right now, the only presence inRP that Fillii have are a few scout ships. Nothing to warrant take over or absorbing of barbarian tribes.

With that said, the faction description is both what is current, and what is planned. So before you make a motion that we move our PLANNED base of operations, under the assumption that we never asked for permission, allow us to actually make a presence beyond a handful of Sirius-known Freelancer scouting ships.

Then we will work at diplomacy and reaching out to various factions. As of right now the inRP, albeit non-existent ingame, jumphole to our systems is located in next door from Inverness, so it stands to reason that the few ships coming through to peek around would use Invergordon for it's remote location. Hope that clears things up.

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[Ponge]

Yet your info page sugest you claimed Invergordon as your base. As you see, it already generated some tension; maybe a little rephrasing might help, like "Forward base of operations" or "Gathering point in known Sirius" or something like that.
Diplomacy can be carried out parallel to making a presence, not just after it. For example, Junkers are also hostile to Gallia, that is a common point. In my experience, it is always best to ask first and act second (like with PoB construction).

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[Kampanom]

It says "base of operations", actually.


"Base of operations" may as well mean "we essentially leaned our spot there as a base from wich we launch our patrols and everything".

[Savas]

Jesus Christ, Aleh, that's one of the most beautiful walls of text I've seen on these forums in a long time though, you'll have to give me a day or three to finish it. From a glance this pitch looks very interesting and I like it quite a bit. Best of luck to you my friend of old, perhaps I'll join you soon.

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[TFinnegan]

Aye, an' as Governor o' Inverness, Chief o' Clan Gordon, whose bonny 'ome be th' right shiney Invergordon, Oi feel tha' Oi've a peck o' input 'ere.

*points at screen*
Ye lot o' buggers best be on yer best b'avior, an' sure.
Th' Claymore o' Gordon be aye still parked 'ere, an' ready tae serve 'er masters, th' bloody Junkers o' Clan Gordon.

They dinnae call me Coileach an Taobh Tuath fer blody nuttin', lads.

(Aye an' tha' be Cock o' th' North t'ye non Gaeilic speakers, fer true, just click the link!)

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[Coin]

Sounds corsair. Laws are the same as the roman empire? when it was a kingdom, a theocracy, a democracy, a tyranocracy, a democracy again, or when it was split in two, or when the western half was captured by the eastern half, when it was crawling around on its knees after the barbarian's sacking of rome, or what it is in the present reality - the vatican?

Secondly, renaming systems: don't. it breaks the fourth wall, and shatters the suspension of disbelief. If you say to my character 'meet me in rome' I won't know where you mean until you say 'coronado'. 'But our RP is that coronado is rome' doesnt make sense. the legion of mars hasn't popped its head up in 820 years. why are you arising now? where have you been?

Thirdly, are you claiming these systems as your own in RP? are you having turf wars with the incumbents? (+1 if yes).

player list - after a quick scan of the massive wall of text above, some numbers stood out. you have 10,000 people in your faction? I know that there are peoples names written here and there, but that's too difficult for me to find, could you do a synopsis?

fifthly, tag. some people have spqf, some are called praetorians (the same as the corsair bomber), too confusing. suggest [SPQR]NAME.NAME-P, or -F, or -whatever the other groups are called.

sixthly. +1 for avoiding caps, despite freelancer id restrictions.

seventhly, a faction very very much like this was attempted three years ago, with the laws of the roman empire, etc. because they spurned the corsair tag, everyone said to them, you are corsair. whatever your perception of your RP is, it depends on how others see you to inform their interaction with you. For example, the mollies do not see the corsairs as 'pirates' but 'competition', but the corsairs don't see themselves as pirates but as a lawful house trying to get even for being stiffed over the allocation of systems... just like gallia... but they are not seen as anything but pirates by the other houses.

Eighthly, why is everything written in via cloaca maxima brown?

ninethly... and this is where you get all hot and bothered at me. This faction just doesnt fit. You have a freelancer tag/id. freelancers, by definition do not form factions or groups. Whilst we have large parts of kusari without a govt, and various factions not being played at all (gaians, planetform, hogosha, etc), many people will look at this rp offering and think 'meh, should be corsairs'. When I came to this server, i tried to import a faction of lawful mercs that used the roman rank structure (centurion, legionnaire, etc). Because it broke the suspension of disbelief, large parts of the server rose up and said 'no'. We already have a eastern/western roman empire in the form of the corsairs and oc. There are many problems with your offering as it presently stands. I hope you take this feedback in the manner that it is intended.

Tenthly, I suggest a TLDR. As fascinating as one thinks one's own ideas are, not everyone wants to read ALL of what you have written. Executive summaries are all the rage in RL.

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[Zephyranthes]

Sounds corsair. Laws are the same as the roman empire? when it was a kingdom, a theocracy, a democracy, a tyranocracy, a democracy again, or when it was split in two, or when the western half was captured by the eastern half, when it was crawling around on its knees after the barbarian's sacking of rome, or what it is in the present reality - the vatican?

It was implied to be that of the high Roman Empire, circa 100 AD, even reaching as early as the reign of Augustus.

Secondly, renaming systems: don't. it breaks the fourth wall, and shatters the suspension of disbelief. If you say to my character 'meet me in rome' I won't know where you mean until you say 'coronado'. 'But our RP is that coronado is rome' doesnt make sense. the legion of mars hasn't popped its head up in 820 years. why are you arising now? where have you been?

Last I checked it was not unknown for factions to give their own names to discovered systems (i.e. Gallia). As stated in the History section, the Imperium was far behind in most technological categories, especially that of space travel, for most of its history. The only reason they are emerging now is because only now are they able to do so with a degree of ease, and as for where they have been, the History section explains this as well.

Thirdly, are you claiming these systems as your own in RP? are you having turf wars with the incumbents? (+1 if yes).

The Sirian systems are ones that inRP border the Imperium, and as such are systems of interest. This does not mean that the Imperium is actively trying to conquer them. In fact, the system of Inverness (which is closest) is not even the subject of occupation, as Fillii assets are working to cooperate with local Junker and Molly populations, and gaining power through diplomatic means.

player list - after a quick scan of the massive wall of text above, some numbers stood out. you have 10,000 people in your faction? I know that there are peoples names written here and there, but that's too difficult for me to find, could you do a synopsis?

As before, it stated in the Military section that this is the amount of men within a legion. Note that this is an inRP number, as to have that many players is foolhardy at best.

fifthly, tag. some people have spqf, some are called praetorians (the same as the corsair bomber), too confusing. suggest [SPQR]NAME.NAME-P, or -F, or -whatever the other groups are called.

When making the tag, I did not notice any other groups or names with the initials "SPQF". If you know of any, please PM me regarding them, and we will see if any problems may be resolved.

seventhly, a faction very very much like this was attempted three years ago, with the laws of the roman empire, etc. because they spurned the corsair tag, everyone said to them, you are corsair. whatever your perception of your RP is, it depends on how others see you to inform their interaction with you. For example, the mollies do not see the corsairs as 'pirates' but 'competition', but the corsairs don't see themselves as pirates but as a lawful house trying to get even for being stiffed over the allocation of systems... just like gallia... but they are not seen as anything but pirates by the other houses.

That is Corsair RP, yes. But this is not Corsair RP. Please do not mix them up.

Eighthly, why is everything written in via cloaca maxima brown?

Most text is written in dark red. Not the color of fecal matter.

ninethly... and this is where you get all hot and bothered at me. This faction just doesnt fit. You have a freelancer tag/id. freelancers, by definition do not form factions or groups. Whilst we have large parts of kusari without a govt, and various factions not being played at all (gaians, planetform, hogosha, etc), many people will look at this rp offering and think 'meh, should be corsairs'. When I came to this server, i tried to import a faction of lawful mercs that used the roman rank structure (centurion, legionnaire, etc). Because it broke the suspension of disbelief, large parts of the server rose up and said 'no'. We already have a eastern/western roman empire in the form of the corsairs and oc. There are many problems with your offering as it presently stands. I hope you take this feedback in the manner that it is intended.

I understand your concerns, and realize the risks involved. But many factions over the years would not have fit, had it not been for the execution of the premise inRP. The reason the Freelancer ID/IFF is being used from an inRP standpoint is because the ships currently being used by the Fillii are inherently Sirian, including their IFF signatures. Not to mention that many IDs currently available do not match the RP of the faction. And other than the fact that they are a divided House, I do not see the correlation between the Outcasts and Corsairs to the division of the Roman Empire.

Tenthly, I suggest a TLDR. As fascinating as one thinks one's own ideas are, not everyone wants to read ALL of what you have written. Executive summaries are all the rage in RL.

Understandable, I was planning on making a summary at some point.

But the fact that you have not looked at most of the faction's information and criticize it as a whole brings into question the validity of some points. Many of these questions could have been answered through simply reading the text, rather than spurning it due to its length. From what I can see, you took what is superficially beyond face value, and used that to base your concerns. I implore you to actually read what you are criticizing.