That's never made sense to me, why wouldn't a terrorist organisation seek refuge in allies of like minds? To further the point why not be able to make temporary alliances of convenience? In a lot of ways the way our IDs are setup really limits people, Terrorist organisations are often secular and very ego-centric. Likewise they also work together on occasion when their ideals align.
It seems the state of the Coalition ID and the inherent nature of the Coalition are in conflict. So, proposals anyone?
if you think the terrorist part is vital - then i d suggest to at least get rid of the "cannot ally with others" part - so that the political side can be RPed better.... that d be beneficial for the faction, i think. since the IDs are revised anyway - that shouldn t be a big deal - IF the community thinks that this is balanced.... no allies is usually meant to balance the fact that you enjoy more freedom. ( since we know that more friends and greater numbers make you stronger )
For me, the ruthless attitude and masochistic ideals of the militant Coalition are key to what it is, but I'm not the faction leader so its not my call. I just think that a lot of potential is squandered between having no tag, no NPCs in our guard system and an ID that disallows some actions, but allows others.
I agree though, there could and should be a lot more political subterfuge in the SCRA. If having no allies is the trade off to the freedom enjoyed by the revised IDs, I'd take it. Allies aren't crucial to an operation, they just make it that little bit easier.
The ally thing is awkward, yes. It forces us to be more condescending to potential allies, such as the Bundschuh, Unioners, etc.
The ruthless attitude is necessary, but I can see us taking advantage of, or even aiding (perhaps for selfish reasons), other revolutionaries.
I'm not in favour of a full-on Terrorist ID, since it involves shoting civilians, something we consider ourselves above, since they are the victims of the Alliance's political goals.
We have tried the old subterfuge and political machinations in the past (see:GRU), but generally, anything attempted in such a fashion is either seen as rule-breaking, or is simply power-played out of.
As regarding the Order, the Phantoms are friendly to Corsairs in spite of being hostile to the Order. The Order also get on well with the GMG, who are hostile to their allies in the Corsairs.
We aren't a threat to humanity in the sense that the Nomads are, we're a threat to the existing political structures.
"We aren't a threat to humanity in the sense that the Nomads are, we're a threat to the existing political structures."
thats what i d like to see ingame more. - i have seen more propaganda from the gaians than i have seen from the coalition:laugh:. - if the coalition is a mirrorimage of the soviet nation in the cold war era... even blunt methods might be used - such as military parades to impress and intimidate. - sometimes blunt methods ... but also subtle propaganda.
i would like to see some "movement" .. some active convincing of others. - if you don t attack civilians, which is a good addition to the ID - i would use that feature - that makes you somewhat more civilized than even the blood dragons that have similar ( but rather small scale ) goals to strike against an unjust ( from their pov ) goverment - but they target civilians, too.
if you don t .. you can make it a point, i think an intermediete goal should be independence in a system like the mollys - and once that goal is achieved, the long term goal can be to slowly but steadily overwhelm the rest of sirius - but as a player, i d like to see things being steered into that direction. that doesn t mean you gotto fly through sirius while preaching kommunism - but it should offer a different level to encounters. - some are clearly hostile and resolved in combat ... but others might be solved by convincing others ( hence maybe recruiting )
the way such a faction survives is by getting more members ( in a RP sense ... and slightly in a gamebalance sense ) - while the faction certainly stays small, i d expect it to pull more and more people to their side that - maybe quietly symphazise with your cause ) - a bit like the order is supposed to be... a small inner core that is "the order" and a large number of people that agree with them and support them.... but not officially.
of course its hard to RP that in the game - but thats how i see the progress of the faction.
I fully agree. However, we do find it difficult to represent a lot of this in-game. I tried to show something similar in our recruitment thread (5th page)a few weeks back, showing the motivations that Libertonian and Rheinland criminals may have for signing up. The Rogue part might be a touch graphic, but I think it gets the idea across.
We've been trying in this regard, but aren't as successful as we'd hope, since it is very difficult to represent in-game.
' Wrote:thats what i d like to see ingame more. - i have seen more propaganda from the gaians than i have seen from the coalition:laugh:. - if the coalition is a mirrorimage of the soviet nation in the cold war era... even blunt methods might be used - such as military parades to impress and intimidate. - sometimes blunt methods ... but also subtle propaganda.
I Should really be on the road already, but once again, I felt the need to reply to this: Have ye ever seen the SCRA ingame before? Practically all we do, at least when I'm around, is wander around bashing capitalism and trying to convince civilian to join. I spent a good 30 minutes in NY yesterday telling the whole system what a buggered up government thay had, and arguing with some numpty who'd apparently never read the Starlancer/Freelanccer backstory. By the end of it, I had civilians making fun of the navy guys. The SCRA does that all the time, I fail to understand how you can claim that you've seen more propaganda from the Gaians, unless you spend a much larger amount of time with them.
Jack Handey Wrote:I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Some say that he is allergic to a fungus found only between the toes of Corsairs,
and that he is oblivious to 98% of Liberty Law. All we know is... He's called the Busdriver!
I think you're pretty awesome, frankly any faction with pilots who look like this gets my vote any day...
But seriously, I have seen you while on my RoS, LN and XA, and each time you have behaved awesomely. Geniunely impressed. Only problem is I don't see you often enough.
I only have one Idea, you should be the Sirius Coalition Armed Revolution. I think SCAR sounds cooler.
Some say that he is allergic to a fungus found only between the toes of Corsairs,
and that he is oblivious to 98% of Liberty Law. All we know is... He's called the Busdriver!
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