End of the Liberty-Rheinland conflict

[tothebonezone]

Kusari against Liberty.

That'd be like Japan going to war against America three days after they surrendered in WW2.

Kusari sort of lost the majority of its fleet when Gallia came through, and a fleet doesn't pop up over night.

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[FeralCallsign]

Why not have a united front? All of Sirius against Gallia with shakey alliances.

Why not Gallia pushing in from Bret/Kusari and the Nomads from Rheinland? It would at least give more people incentive to play Gallia.

Hell, it would give ME incentive to play Gallia.Back before I stopped playing (right before the Gallia release) I was super psyched to be apart of the Gallic Navy.

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[Laura C.]

I would honestly like to see Kusari going to war with someone.

I think the best way how to do it would be already proposed civil war. And if set right, it may even give some action to Rheinland as well. I mean if for example if Blood Dragons takes control over Honshu system, claiming empire there, Kusari can ask Rheinland for help. But that means going through Sigma-13. GMG would be against it of course (they will support the Dragons and if not, Dragons can push them to do it).

So Rheinland with Kusari´s open or secret approval invades Sigma-13 and capture major part of it (or even whole system). This can create interesting "eintopf" where republican forces of Kusari (probably with Hogosha on their side) are fightining Blood Dragons (and maybe also parts of KNF which still feel loyalty to emperor) in New Tokyo and Honshu, while Rheinland is mining helium which they desperately need for their snubs (after GMG will cut them off after invasion) in Sigma-13, protecting there their miners from guerilla attacks from GMG and even occasional Corsair attacks. But in same time, Rheinland Expeditionary Forces start first fights in Honshu against Blood Dragons (as very likely also GMG and even Chrysanthemums).

One of the possibly scenarios how to create new front for Rheinland and large scale war for Kusari. Just my little idea, don´t hit me...

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[Vulthuryol]

I would honestly like to see Kusari going to war with someone.

I'd welcome it as Kusari and Rheinland against Liberty.

This could work, Gallia monstering through Bretonia and hitting at Liberty in Magellan and Cortez forcing a wedge between the two allies and intensifying the cutting of direct supplies and reinforcements (already somewhat happening).

Then have the nations of Kusari and Rheinland (after sufficient consultation with Gallic powers that be) put there embattled fleets and resources together to open another (although weaker) pair of fronts (allowing Kusari and Rheinland fleets to work together on the two fronts in say Colorado and Texas) on the Liberty Military to somewhat distract Liberty and allow Gallia more time to savage the alliance by taking Bretonia even further down if not destroying it.

This in turn:

1. Keeps the Rheinland - Liberty conflict open (this seems to be a semi-liked conflict but possibly a bit stale with further things ahead to maybe help towards refreshing it)

2. Causes direct co-operation between Rheinland and Kusari fleets (as neither really has the power to fight a war on their own - Lore reasons obviously)

3. Causes in-direct co-operation between Kusari, Rheinland and Gallic Fleets (Imagine a co-ordinated two or three way raid for the defenders and also attackers, player numbers depending of course)

4. Increases the need for Liberty and Bretonia to hit back at what is increasingly looking like a losing fight.

5. This also allows for house intelligence agencies to increase foreign operations with the increase in military activity within their respective houses

6. This might be a bit extreme, but you could also throw in some sort of Wilde and Nomad thing here where they want to see this war carry on (in order to wear down every ones fleets) so either directly or indirectly can "help" either side to further their own cause (sabotage a winning sides incoming supplies/reinforcements or intervene in a losing sides conflict (not teaming up, merely destroying a key ship or two then dissapearing).



( This is merely my input and i know not all will agree if any, its only an opinion so please no raging against the machine )

Edit: Was just thinking, Long story short, I voted no, I see it as why close the war, why not just intensify it somehow, doesn't have to be the above just something to spice it up. I'm sure the Dev's could think of something.

[black widow3]

I would honestly like to see Kusari going to war with someone.

I'd welcome it as Kusari and Rheinland against Liberty.

This could work, Gallia monstering through Bretonia and hitting at Liberty in Magellan and Cortez forcing a wedge between the two allies and intensifying the cutting of direct supplies and reinforcements (already somewhat happening).

Then have the nations of Kusari and Rheinland (after sufficient consultation with Gallic powers that be) put there embattled fleets and resources together to open another (although weaker) pair of fronts (allowing Kusari and Rheinland fleets to work together on the two fronts in say Colorado and Texas) on the Liberty Military to somewhat distract Liberty and allow Gallia more time to savage the alliance by taking Bretonia even further down if not destroying it.

This in turn:

1. Keeps the Rheinland - Liberty conflict open (things seems to be a liked conflict)

2. Causes direct co-operation between Rheinland and Kusari fleets (as neither really has the power to fight a war on their own - Lore reasons obviously)

3. Causes in-direct co-operation between Kusari, Rheinland and Gallic Fleets (Imagine a co-ordinated two or three way raid, player numbers depending)

4. Increases the need for Liberty and Bretonia to hit back at what is increasingly looking like a losing fight.

5. This also allows for house intelligence agencies to increase foreign operations with the increase in military activity within their respective houses

6. This might be a bit extreme, but you could also throw in some sort of Nomad thing here where they want to see this war carry on (in order to wear down every ones fleets) so either directly or indirectly can "help" either side to further their own cause (sabotage a winning sides incoming supplies or intervene in a losing sides conflict (not teaming up, merely destroying a key ship or two then dissapearing).



( This is merely my input and i know not all will agree if any, its only an opinion so please no raging against the machine )

I approve this proposal

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[Texas Red]

As it sits now, The Conflict between the RM and LN is boring to me. I've fought on both sides since I joined Disco. It was fun for a while, but it just got old. Repetition isn't fun at all. However, neither is an instant change to the way it either ends or continues. ( I prefer it ends. ) It'd be nice for it to be gradually worked in to through inRP and in-game events. Even a ceasefire organized by both sides would be neat. Sure, it might have a negative effect on players, but if we all sit around and talk about other people changing to Hessians or Gallia it's not going to get done.


A better way to change the face of Rheinland activity is to try and do something about it, and discuss options. Not just the latter. So be a Hessian. Spark the activity. Be a Corsair and do it, too. Corsairs could use a nice bump of activity that's for sure. It'd definitely get Rheinlands attention if several Hessian ships appeared one day rather than them charging off to Liberty to do the same thing again and again.


In short, RM-LN War is boring, do something else rather than talk about doing something else.

[Tenacity]

I say end it, honestly it never made sense to me in the first place.

I definitely like the idea of doing something to get the hessians more active, and rheinland in turn. Hessians have an amazing shipline now, including an awesome battleship and cruiser - I think a lot of players would like to use those ships, but simply have no reason to right now since there isnt a whole lot of activity for hessians. There's few, if any, rheinland players around anymore, and those who are online are usually off duking it out with liberty instead of dealing with at-home threats in rheinland.

The entire rheinland-omega-corsair-hessian territory is pretty dead at the moment. We need more hessian-corsair conflict, more hessian-rheinland conflict, and more corsair-rheinland conflict. There could be some beautiful three way battles going on if those factions had something important and worthwhile to fight over. It may also bring life to rheinland junkers, having bases where those three groups can resupply at.



Similarly, Liberty really has nothing going for it right now, but oddly enough has the most player count at any point in time. People just dont like to leave the core worlds, even with the /restart options available.

Here's an idea: What if, for a limited time, certain areas of the game had boosted /restart options? Say for one week we promote rheinland factions, and anyone who does /restart for the hessians, rheinland police, rheinland military, bundschuh, unioners, or rheinland trade corporations gets a fancier ship to start with, along with extra credits applied to their account? Some way of preventing these credits from being transferred to other characters in order to prevent abuse might be necessary, but it could encourage players to start trying out new factions.

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[Sciamach]

Rheinland dosen't have the capibility to launch these raids

Liberty can't due to the gates being shot to bits

Shoulda ended a while ago. Give both factions something else to shoot, and give 'em an interesting battlefield-area.

Just not New Hampshire for the love of god

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[Tenacity]

What they really need to do is remove gallia from the mod so we can get some activity back in the houses.

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[Sciamach]

Yes, because all of the activity went into Gallia

>nobody ever in Gallia

:|

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