LPI Bomber

[tansytansey]

Fat Ugly Liberator anyone?

Gee thanks, that makes me feel much better about my work.

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[frozen]

looking at the model, it doesnt seem to follow Liberty's design at all. most of liberty's ships are streamlined and thin, so yours being fat doesnt help. the glass part of the canopy is good, but it still have a general boxy feeling to it, unlike any other liberty (vanilla) fighters. i suggest using the liberator's cockpit as a base.

atm, looking at it from the back gave me the impression its a kusari drone freighter, due to the width and the way the wings are. the wings are fine, but the model gives me the impression its a super heavy bomber with very low maneuverability.

i suggest starting from scratch, since this design isnt anything like liberty ships.

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[Zapp]

Frankly I suggest the following approach to the LPI bomber.

a ship about the size of defender, about the same flight characterstics as the gladiator.
4 class 10 guns
1 dedicated CD slot
1 torp slot
mine/CM
VHF power plant.
class 9 shield

It is basically used to stop incoming smugglars (cd) and damage them (aka Razor)
Take on ships like greyhound. I dont believe LPI should get a full fledged bomber.
That is Navy's job....lets distinguish the two a little.

As for the model....um.. yeah its a preggo. May be try putting two partiot fusalages side by side and the two slots (CD/Torp) in the middle one on top of another.
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Any comments on this idea ?

Here's my comment: no.

When the LPI first started to get bombers, we tried out the dual-Razors on Havocs, just to make people happy that we weren't cops packing bazookas. We quickly discovered that, surprise of surprise, that setup was useless against anything bigger than a bomber.

If the LPI wants anti-fighter, we'll fly Liberators. If we want to stop smugglers, we'll fly Grizzlies/Liberators. We don't need a bomber dedicated to interdicting smugglers -- we need one that can take out the capital ships. Believe it or not, the LPI is a very competent police force equipped to face all threats. The SWAT team has responded en masse to Rheinland Battleship incursions into Texas. Navy's job? Not necessarily -- they attack, we don't. However, we reserve the right to defend against invasions for public safety.

Excuse me for saying so, but the LPI has come a long way from donut-munching roflcops to be the premier private security force in Sirius. And if/when we get our bomber, you're basically giving us... a Greyhound with an extra CD slot? Lovely. Just... lovely.

Give our bomber four class 9 gunslots if you want, but it sure as hell better be able to launch a SNAC. Not asking for dual-wielding SNAC fire, I'm asking for a bomber that can fire a SNAC. Not a terribly big request.

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[frozen]

Here's my comment: no.

If the LPI wants anti-fighter, we'll fly Liberators. If we want to stop smugglers, we'll fly Grizzlies/Liberators. We don't need a bomber dedicated to interdicting smugglers -- we need one that can take out the capital ships.

instead of having the havoc being ageira, why not ask the infocards to be changed so it becomes the LPI bomber instead? you got a LPI bomber right there, while the upholder becomes military/navy/LSF exclusive?

im more inclined to the LPI getting a SHF than a bomber, personally. a SHF can fire supernovas too, so i assume you wont have problems with it, since it will have a CD slot too like the mjolnir perhaps (most prolly).

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[Zapp]

When I see SHFs, I think 'oh, easy kill'. IMO they're a really bad ship class, and have no purpose in a PVP fight besides tanking fighters (which can be countered rather easily with either a CD to the inevitable explosive spam I've seen on 95% of the Spatials, or a bomber packing a SN, or a capital ship with a single razor).

The only real purpose a SHF has is purely as an RP platform, like Spatials as exploration ships and the like.

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[MB52]

not to derail the original Author's thread/ vision.. but check this ship out that was designed awhile ago, but the model was lost.

This would make a pretty sweet light bomber, and IMO is a good jumping point for a concept.





http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9578

Something like this with 1 torpedo tube underneath, and the capability to fire SNs. Make it have weak armour, but quick and agile. (following the LPI's current ship line idealism)

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[Zapp]

One torp slot
One CD slot
4x class 9 gun slots
no turrets
weakest powerplant of the bombers, able to fire an SN but not much over that
class 10 shields, CM, mines (standard kit there)
weak armor
fast-ish; definitely fastest bomber, or at least close, but probably not faster than some of the slowest VHFs (Werewolf turning or something)

Of course, I doubt that'll go over with most people real well... mostly people that'll yell "RED CATS LOL". Tough.

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[tansytansey]

not to derail the original Author's thread/ vision.. but check this ship out that was designed awhile ago, but the model was lost.

This would make a pretty sweet light bomber, and IMO is a good jumping point for a concept.



http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9578

Something like this with 1 torpedo tube underneath, and the capability to fire SNs. Make it have weak armour, but quick and agile. (following the LPI's current ship line idealism)

Good design. Don't worry about derailing, I've lost the inspiration to continue with this project.

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[5:50:49 PM] JakeSG (William Darkmoor) says: I like you, Ashes. You're more cynical than God.

[Ocampo]

not to derail the original Author's thread/ vision.. but check this ship out that was designed awhile ago, but the model was lost.

This would make a pretty sweet light bomber, and IMO is a good jumping point for a concept.



http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9578

Something like this with 1 torpedo tube underneath, and the capability to fire SNs. Make it have weak armour, but quick and agile. (following the LPI's current ship line idealism)

Is the like a morph of a Liberator and a Avenger?

I support this design it look as it would fit into the LPI but I would suggest taking the top wig out. I think personally does not fir in with the ship Liberator front look.

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[Etaphreven]

That model is incredibly old. o_O

I wish I could bring it back somehow, but I lack the model, the proper software to do it and most importantly, I lack time.

On the other hand, we've some pretty awesome modelers here, who could probably remake my model by just looking at the shots.

PS: The one in the shots is actually the first version of it. The latest one had the torpedo tubes attached to the wings.
EDIT: I also renamed it the Dauntless, at Pierre's request.