Well ... i don't pass too much time on forums because:
1- i don't have time
2- i have no patience
3 - my women (we are not married so isn't my wife) would kill me if i lose so much time reading all this
4 - my english s ... is bad
So most of the thins that happens here pass me by ... read some on the coms channel and not too much. But i don't remember reading something that the gallic ids were changed. I already saw several gallic ships trading around Kusari, Bretonia and once saw one on Sigma 17. But i go to the Wiki and read that who carries those id can't leave Gallia or must stay near. Was this changed? Anyway, i once went to Gallia exploring and i was receive by GRN npcs with fire and with fire i pay it back ... got some nice rep on some other factions, so ... all this it means nothing to me. Of course all outsiders from Gallia must be hostile to they. They were alone and now they want to expand right? On 4.86 they will be guns blasing on Taus right? So it is a hostile faction. Great! So what is all this noise around? There are jump holes if you can't go by the jump gates.. there are other factions on Gallia that you can be friends! So if you want something from Gallia what is the problem be hostile to GRN? Try to smugler things from there and to there! Can be fun :-)
' Wrote:Let me help you to get it, if they disobeyed the orders of the monarch, either they are dead or in the Council.
Thats just naive theory that never works realy.
Didnt worked for the Nazi then, doesnt work for the north korean now (just to show you even a state near "total control" wont do anything bout it (and The Council itself is prove there is no state close to total control even)).
' Wrote:Its not going to change because you know it better then anyone. Accept the fact that it is how we say it. Period.
Nice classical Rhetoric collecton:
#1 Define opposing opinion as isolated.
#2 Paint opponent as foolish know-it-all.
#3 Declare your own view as general rule.
#4 Make yourself the voice of the majority.
#5 Declare your opinion as final agreement.
#6 Demand opponent to give in and be quiet because of #1-5.
But, i have 2 indy GRN`s and you cannot force me to shoot at foreign Traders nor can you force me to shoot anyone out there nor can you force me to follow non-canon RP if i dont want that. Period.
' Wrote:But, i have 2 indy GRN`s and you cannot force me to shoot at foreign Traders nor can you force me to shoot anyone out there nor can you force me to follow non-canon RP if i dont want that. Period.
Actually they can. It is very much cannon RP for the GRN to shoot foreign traders inside Gallia. If they catch you allowing foreign traders into Gallia they'll likely use Faction Right 2 and order you to do your job. If you refuse, you'll find that you are breaking 6.10.
If you don't want to role play a GRN, go role play the Council.
As for the Corsairs robbing Gallic shipping companies...........currently the GMS and the Corsairs are on neutral-friendly terms. I could see a Corsair venturing to Gallia for some odd reason, though pirating there is not something I see them doing.
' Wrote:Actually they can. It is very much cannon RP for the GRN to shoot foreign traders inside Gallia. If they catch you allowing foreign traders into Gallia they'll likely use Faction Right 2 and order you to do your job. If you refuse, you'll find that you are breaking 6.10.
If you don't want to role play a GRN, go role play the Council.
As for the Corsairs robbing Gallic shipping companies...........currently the GMS and the Corsairs are on neutral-friendly terms. I could see a Corsair venturing to Gallia for some odd reason, though pirating there is not something I see them doing.
Smuggling, not piracy. But again it's impractical for corsair to get to Gallia, the way is too risky. A lone fighter could sneak-in, but a big vessel such as transport that is being shot-down almost right in the entrance by all 3 of the Gallic unlawfuls if he is trading with the lawfuls, and be shot down by Brigands anyway, since he is corsair and Brigands are correctly allies of the OCs.
Quote:GRN are like the perfect soldiers that blindly follow the high-ops orders
And the whole point of the question as you don't actually seem to know and I sure don't which is why I'm asking, what are their orders in relation to corsair trade vessels?
Gallics may well trade with Kusari which is all fine and dandy but in case you haven't noticed, there was a bounty placed upon them there by a certain group of Kusari lawfuls. As it stands, that bounty is pending but maybe that will give you some idea of the feeling Kusari 'really' has for Gallic traders.
On top of that, due to certain affiliations in Kusari, it is VERY rare to see corsair pirates in Kusari at all. The only exception to this is the Honshu gate although corsair trade vessels to Kabukicho would probably be more acceptable. (AFA/Hogosha can confirm this either way). I would imagine corsair pirates that operate in Kusari will have to explain themselves to the Council.
Quote:And IMG don't hate corsairs? are you drunk? Corsairs are rep-hacked hostile to IMG and IMG| have bounty on them too.
A bounty you say?
In the Tau's?
Well thanks. Thats good to know. Fortunatly, the CR aren't so black and white up there as certain corsairs have been positively welcomed.
Rep hacking has little to do with it in RP (which is what this thread is about sir). It's up to the factions themselves. Phantoms were rep-hacked to everything but still passed through Gamma unmolested.
Quote:a corsair would need to pass via very hostile space in order to get to Gallia
Did you actually read my last post?
Corsair trade vessels have to pass Bretonia to get to either Gallia or Liberty.
To get to Gallia, they must pass hunters, Outcasts and now apparantly, IMG mercs and their ilk as well as the various denziens of Gallia, allied to Outcasts.
To get to Liberty, they must pass hunters, Lane Hackers, Rogues, Xeno's, LSF, LPI and LN. Whats more, their are almost NO bases to dock so their destination is known to almost anyone with half a brain.
All this and yet they still get through and you think it harder to get to Gallia?
Quote:Corsairs are not allowed to lurk Tau-23, with good explanation - Outcasts. They swarm the area in huge numbers and it's way far from Corsair homeland, the only inRP explanation is that after alpha raid a corsair fled to that area
Lurk?
How about passing through?
Incidentally, for information only, some corsairs did briefly work out of Tau-23 before with another group based there...
There was RP. They did not flee there. That however is irrelevant. They were fighters. I am referring specifically to trade vessels.
Quote:Now, tell me how would corsair even enter Gallia, when even Council are not big fans of them, the Brigands are allies of the OCs, the maquis will shot them since Council don't like them and UC will shot them as they are possible competitors for the Gallic black market. So please, only because you are 1000% biased to your corsair smuggler stop all of that Q_Q. as per now corsairs have no reason to have their rep hack removed
I answered the first part...several times.
As you seem to be aware, corsairs are an unknown quantity in Gallia. If as you claim, the Council have an opinion, and that may well be the case, I don't know, all the more reason for the GRN to be more accepting. If it's not the case, then that argument collapses as does the one it supports re:the Maquis.
The UC may well see them as a threat or better yet, may make a better offer than the GRN assuming the corsairs have something they want and vice versa.
With regard to some kind of Corsair smuggler biase, I suggest you read back carefully through the posts. You have consistantly put a string of inconsistant arguements forward with little knowledge of past corsair RP.
The simple question is "What is the basis for the rep-hack being reversed for factions except corsairs. Do they have one or is a request by the GRN"?
At that point sir, this discussion is over and others may open.
To answer the GRN part, Corsairs are just as Sirian as any other, so they get the same treatment. Hostile until proven otherwise. That is valid for every single sirian, rephacked or not. GRN didn't ask for a removal of those rephacks at all, but I can't say I find it weird that the corsairs remain hostile.
The bounty on Gallic factions by Samura has already been lifted, and a small detail regarding that: every single trade faction sirius was bountied by them. So that wasn't really relevant to Gallic diplomacy at all.
' Wrote:Actually they can. It is very much cannon RP for the GRN to shoot foreign traders inside Gallia. If they catch you allowing foreign traders into Gallia they'll likely use Faction Right 2 and order you to do your job. If you refuse, you'll find that you are breaking 6.10.
No, i will not find, "anything".....you will have to find, allot of prove. And it wont get you anywhere cause there are 1001 excuses like:
I was afk, they showed a martian on TV; you dont have a screenshot proving that; he was RPing a secret gallian agent; my sister was hitting me cause my brother put pink printerink in her makeup; sorry, i put you on ignore 1 month ago; i didnt see him, i was in turret view looking at you; sorry i forgot what you just said, can you repeat?
Daedric, have you ever had such a case in Texas with an LNS or LPI or in Hamburg with an RM or RFP or in Hokkaido with an KNF or do you want to win an argument to desperatly to admit your making it up (like my bro above)?